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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:14 am 
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Totally thought that was going to end up at the top of the page. Sorry about the double post, boys & (non-existent) girls.




Mini Bennett wrote:
The year is up though, so maybe we should start the nominating for writers? Or maybe someone would like to volunteer? Perhaps we could start sending in our official top 10 (or top 20? Whatever it is) too.


The search for writers will start very soon. That's one of the few parts of this project that we need to get Hunter's approval for, since he's the Managing Editor of Wrestleview. Jason & I will be speaking with him to figure out where we're at, on that front.

As for the final votes, there's still some time before we'll be ready for that. After all, the Final Ballot hasn't been made official yet. Voting here will continue for another week, with the Final Ballot being unveiled at the beginning of next week. Until then, we're still working on the Bubble. With that in mind...



5 new matches have been added to the Bubble. All of them are at +2:

El Generico vs. Kevin Steen PWG Steen Wolf 10/22
http://www.megavideo.com/?d=YQT9Y842

Torneo de Cibernetico Match: CHIKARA Cibernetico: The Animated Series 11/12
http://www.megavideo.com/?d=6UO44D48

Cheerleader Melissa & Ayako Hamada vs Madison Eagles & Sara Del Rey SHIMMER Vol. 39 3/27
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=FLG03SMX

Jessie McKay vs Nicole Matthews SHIMMER Vol. 39 3/27
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=YK6KE0C3

Kana vs Sara Del Rey CHIKARA Klunk of Love 10/8
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=5KW8WIFC



And now the rest....

Updated bubble list as of 01/02/2012:



WWE(+6 to +3)

CM Punk vs Triple H WWE Night of Champions 9/18
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=2AK0Y7GF

Cody Rhodes vs Randy Orton WWE Smackdown 11/4
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=AI7LTXNI

Sheamus vs Randy Orton WWE Smackdown 6/10
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=MY0Y3S90

Alberto Del Rio vs Rey Mysterio WWE Smackdown 1/7
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=Z1XO3N1N

Cody Rhodes vs Rey Mysterio WWE Smackdown 4/22
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=R3DEUMD2

Dolph Ziggler vs Edge WWE Royal Rumble 1/30
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=QCWUQHSD

Dolph Ziggler vs Randy Orton WWE Smackdown 10/28
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=9LS6NIU0

Drew Mcintyre vs. Rey Mysterio WWE Smackdown 3/11
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=GLULFNBT

John Cena & The Rock vs The Awesome Truth WWE Survivor Series 11/20
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=VY22DV4Q

The Big Show vs Mark Henry WWE Vengeance 10/23
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=YH2TOT74

Alberto Del Rio vs Christian WWE Smackdown 4/8
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=6ERGWR60

Dolph Ziggler vs John Morrison WWE Survivor Series 11/20
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=J6OFLTD1

John Cena vs The Miz WWE RAW 10/31
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=7P0GJGUN

Layla vs Michelle McCool WWE Extreme Rules 5/1
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=L3D5X9UZ

Mark Henry vs Randy Orton WWE Hell In A Cell 10/2
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=IDSJ1UF0

Sheamus vs Randy Orton WWE Smackdown 6/3
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=CZ9PHRW5

12 Man Tag WWE RAW 10/3
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=CMH5BIL0

AJ vs Maxine WWE NXT 9/13
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=TPLIIFXN

Alberto Del Rio vs Rey Mysterio WWE RAW 8/15
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=MN4KEQXL

Alicia Fox vs Natalya WWE Superstars 7/7
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=FKVS3URG

Beth Phoenix vs Kelly Kelly WWE Summerslam 8/14
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=391JWNN8

Brodus Clay vs Johnny Curtis vs Derrick Bateman WWE NXT 2/22
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=GUH8W05B

Christian vs Mark Henry WWE Smackdown 6/3
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=3SPW8IL7

Kane vs Randy Orton WWE Smackdown 7/22
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=IPOY41GT

Melina vs Beth Phoenix WWE Superstars 5/5
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=82ZHX8UI

The Big Show, Kane, Santino Marella & Kofi Kingston vs The Corre WWE Smackdown 4/8
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=1DDK9IQ4

Dolph Ziggler vs. Cody Rhodes vs. Drew McIntyre vs. Big Show, Smackdown 1/7
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=Z1XO3N1N

Randy Orton & Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes & CM Punk, RAW 4/4
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=R68OOG9A

CM Punk vs. John Cena, RAW 2/14
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=W92D1825



The Field(+4 to +2)

Austin Aries vs Brian Kendrick TNA Bound for Glory 10/16
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=FUGNJUD6

Bad Intentions vs No Limit NJPW 5/3
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=0H2ZP6CD

Dal Knox vs Vinny Dunn IPW Ignition 2/14
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=Z6L8F6I3

El Generico vs Roderick Strong ROH Revolution: USA 5/6
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=O7KRKO71

Kurt Angle & Chyna vs The Jarretts TNA Sacrifice 5/15
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=HQE44DFP

The All Night Express vs The Briscoes ROH Honor Takes Center Stage Chapter Two 4/2
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=WSVLJM6B

The Kings of Wrestling vs The All Night Express ROH 9th Anniversary 2/26
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=Q7JREG2S

Abyss vs Brian Kendrick IMPACT Wrestling 7/28
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=64EJ8CB8

Brodus Clay vs. Percy Watson FCW 2/27
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=RAB6GPC6

Daizee Haze vs Serena Deeb SHIMMER Vol. 37 3/27
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=V18O38FT

Finlay vs Sami Callahan EVOLVE 9 7/26
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=6J6ZMI7U

Jerry Lawler & Brian Christopher vs. Bill Dundee & Jamie Dundee 3/2
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=2TQKH008

Jun Akiyama vs. Yutaka Yoshi NOAH 3/5
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=LB5AR5OS

Negro Casas vs Blue Panther CMLL 4/24
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=859OJBW0

The All Night Express vs The Briscoes ROH Death Before Dishonor IX 9/18
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=INZJSVEB

Yuji Nagata vs. Minoru Suzuki NJPW WrestleKingdom V 1/4
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=NHUXWMYH

4 Way Tag ROH Best In The World 6/26
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=UC886KSN

Adam Pearce vs Colt Cabana NWA Championship Wrestling from Hollywood 4/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr7u9gMRnrU

Bobby Roode vs AJ Styles TNA Turning Point 11/13
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=VRDUBJFC

Cheerleader Melissa vs Athena SHIMMER Vol. 37 3/26
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=6K75FKRL

Cheerleader Melissa vs Melanie Cruise SHIMMER Vol. 38 3/26
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=EI4RBJUU

Crimson vs Matt Hardy IMPACT Wrestling 6/2
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=63T2YIIH

Ikuto Hidaka vs. Takafumi Ito Zero-One 3/6
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=1Y5V5RVV

Madison Eagles vs Mercedes Martinez SHIMMER Vol. 37 3/26
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=E33R6NCP

Trevor Murdoch vs Derek Stone MetroPro 1/18
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=61I1OZ1C

Yoshihiro Takayama vs. KENTA NOAH 1/15
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=CHT59Q3N

Tony Nese vs. Zema Ion TNA Impact 12/15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfzhv_oNbGo

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:16 pm 
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El Generico vs. Kevin Steen, PWG Steen Wolf, 10/22 - NO

I know this might be an unpopular choice of vote, but I didn't enjoy this match at all. From what I've seen of the independents this year, I really dislike what appears to be the standard 'hate brawl' formula. I'm a big fan of Generico, and am undecided on Steen, but the match did nothing for me. I get that they despise each other and want to do terrible things, etc., but thirty minutes of two guys powerbombing each other on the ring apron and taking turns at going through ladders doesn't really entertain me. They totally diluted the meaning and impact of the ladders by using them so freely in the early stages (just like that ROH tag team ladder match from September). In turn, the ending, to me, felt like a major anticlimax and fell completely flat.

And the commentary was disgustingly bad. They seemed to spend most of the match rambling about completely unrelated topics, stopping only to insert the occasional "HOLYSHITFUCCK~~~!!!" each time Generico or Steen took a bad bump.

In my opinion, this kind of match shows off the worst of the indy scene. No remotely interesting story, no distinct plan, no tension or suspense, watered-down spots, and a flat ending. I've seen some really great matches from ROH, CHIKARA, and other promotions this year, and enjoy voting yes to those that are good. But this wasn't one of them. Sorry, Jason.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:20 pm 
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El Generico vs. Kevin Steen, PWG Steen Wolf, 10/22 - NO

I know this might be an unpopular choice of vote, but I didn't enjoy this match at all. From what I've seen of the independents this year, I really dislike what appears to be the standard 'hate brawl' formula. I'm a big fan of Generico, and am undecided on Steen, but the match did nothing for me. I get that they despise each other and want to do terrible things, etc., but thirty minutes of two guys powerbombing each other on the ring apron and taking turns at going through ladders doesn't really entertain me. They totally diluted the meaning and impact of the ladders by using them so freely in the early stages (just like that ROH tag team ladder match from September). In turn, the ending, to me, felt like a major anticlimax and fell completely flat.

And the commentary was disgustingly bad. They seemed to spend most of the match rambling about completely unrelated topics, stopping only to insert the occasional "HOLYSHITFUCCK~~~!!!" each time Generico or Steen took a bad bump.

In my opinion, this kind of match shows off the worst of the indy scene. No remotely interesting story, no distinct plan, no tension or suspense, watered-down spots, and a flat ending. I've seen some really great matches from ROH, CHIKARA, and other promotions this year, and enjoy voting yes to those that are good. But this wasn't one of them. Sorry, Jason.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:11 pm 
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It's awesome that you looked that up, Goob. I give your effort four and a quarter craics.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:41 pm 
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Talking about Nuclear Winter...

YES
Mark Henry vs Randy Orton WWE Night of Champions 9/19
The Big Show vs Mark Henry WWE Vengeance 10/23
The Miz vs Rey Mysterio WWE RAW 7/25
AJ vs Maxine WWE NXT 9/13
John Cena & The Rock vs The Awesome Truth WWE Survivor Series 11/20
Mark Henry vs Randy Orton WWE Hell In A Cell 10/2
Alberto Del Rio vs John Cena WWE Vengeance 10/23
Austin Aries vs Brian Kendrick TNA Bound for Glory 10/16
Hulk Hogan vs Sting TNA Bound for Glory 10/16 (This may be a re-vote)
Adam Pearce vs Colt Cabana NWA Championship Wrestling from Hollywood 4/2
Trevor Murdoch vs Derek Stone MetroPro 1/18


NO
CM Punk vs Triple H WWE Night of Champions 9/19
Daniel Bryan vs Mark Henry WWE Smackdown 11/29
Daniel Bryan vs Wade Barrett WWE Summerslam 8/14
Dolph Ziggler vs Randy Orton WWE Smackdown 10/28
Alberto Del Rio vs Rey Mysterio WWE RAW 8/15
Cody Rhodes vs Randy Orton WWE Smackdown 11/4
Dolph Ziggler vs John Morrison WWE Survivor Series 11/20
12 Man Tag WWE RAW 10/3
Air Boom vs Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger WWE Vengeance 10/23
Beth Phoenix vs Kelly Kelly WWE Summerslam 8/14
CM Punk vs Dolph Ziggler WWE RAW 11/21
John Cena vs The Miz WWE RAW 10/31
Abyss vs Brian Kendrick vs Kazarian TNA Slammiversary 6/12
Hernandez vs Bobby Roode IMPACT Wrestling 8/4
Gunner vs Mr. Anderson IMPACT Wrestling 6/16
Crimson vs Matt Hardy IMPACT Wrestling 6/2
Torneo de Cibernetico Match: CHIKARA Cibernetico: The Animated Series 11/12
Cheerleader Melissa & Ayako Hamada vs Madison Eagles & Sara Del Rey SHIMMER Vol. 39 3/27
Kana vs Sara Del Rey CHIKARA Klunk of Love 10/8
Jessie McKay vs Nicole Matthews SHIMMER Vol. 39 3/27
Tony Nese vs. Zema Ion TNA Impact 12/15
Finlay vs Sami Callahan EVOLVE 9 7/26
El Generico vs. Kevin Steen PWG Steen Wolf 10/22

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TheLyontamer wrote:
El Generico vs. Kevin Steen, PWG Steen Wolf, 10/22 - NO

I know this might be an unpopular choice of vote, but I didn't enjoy this match at all. From what I've seen of the independents this year, I really dislike what appears to be the standard 'hate brawl' formula. I'm a big fan of Generico, and am undecided on Steen, but the match did nothing for me. I get that they despise each other and want to do terrible things, etc., but thirty minutes of two guys powerbombing each other on the ring apron and taking turns at going through ladders doesn't really entertain me. They totally diluted the meaning and impact of the ladders by using them so freely in the early stages (just like that ROH tag team ladder match from September). In turn, the ending, to me, felt like a major anticlimax and fell completely flat.

And the commentary was disgustingly bad. They seemed to spend most of the match rambling about completely unrelated topics, stopping only to insert the occasional "HOLYSHITFUCCK~~~!!!" each time Generico or Steen took a bad bump.

In my opinion, this kind of match shows off the worst of the indy scene. No remotely interesting story, no distinct plan, no tension or suspense, watered-down spots, and a flat ending. I've seen some really great matches from ROH, CHIKARA, and other promotions this year, and enjoy voting yes to those that are good. But this wasn't one of them. Sorry, Jason.


I read your review Lyon, watered down my non-existent expectations and gave this match a go.

I must really love wrestling to have watched this trash. No, trash can have a benefit or use in the world. No, this is completely and utterly without value of any kind. I don't even want my half hour of my life back, I just feel bad for the people in the audience who acted like this is anything resembling what wrestling should be. No, no....just, NO.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:07 pm 
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The funny thing is, I feel that I went easy on the match. I was all set to write a ten-paragraph demolition job, breaking down everything that I disliked about it. There's a lot of stuff that I didn't even mention in my post. And I could have easily gone into much greater detail on the points that I did bring up. But it's really not worth it. It's just a real stinker and should be left at that. I don't want to dwell on it too much. But fuck, that match was bad.

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Fuck, I need to go watch Chris Hero try to concuss Akira Tozawa with elbows to wash this taste out of my mouth

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