Different strokes, I guess. I'd take the 2009 series over 2007 though.

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Cm Punk vs. John Morrison, Smackdown 8/14

Good match. They really built in some cool counters that ended up being pretty cool as they were the catalyst for Punk's ever increasing temper. Punk's striking was pretty nutty here as well. This whole strike-based character works so much better as a heel. I enjoyed this a good deal. So 'yes'.

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I'm nominating the 6 man between Hardyz/Morrison Vs Punk/Hart Dynasty from last night's Smackdown.

Really good match imo.

The G1 over in New Japan has had A LOT of 'almost' matches this year, but here's one I'm definately cool with throwing out there...

Takashi Sugiura vs. Hirooki Gotoh, New Japan 8/15

This one surprised me. I wasn't a big fan of their match in July and definitely not a fan of Gotoh much at all, but wouldn't ya know.. this was an awesome match. Heading into this, Gotoh is the defending champion at this tournament. He needs a win to advance. Standing in his way is Sugiura, who has been the center of this big New Japan-NOAH war that's been going on since January. As its progressed, Sugiura and Gotoh grew to hate each other just a little bit more every time and wouldn't ya know, it resulted in a match at last month's pay per view. Gotoh had been on a role since winning last year's G1 and then the New Japan Cup this past spring. He stumbled, losing his title shot against Tanahashi, and needed a win to get back into the mix over Sugiura. Things didn't work out that way though and not only did Sug beat him, he more or less mopped the floor with him. Sugiura took the momentum from that match to challenge Tanahshi himself, and he got beat pretty convincingly.

So both are more or less using this tournament to get back on track. Both didn't get off to a great start. Gotoh dropped decisions to both Nagata and Nakamura before going on a tear and beating Iizuka, Tenzan and Nakanishi all in succession. Sugiura stumbled out of the gate himself, losing to Tenzan and Nakamura. He drew Nagata and defeated Nakanishi and Iizuka. Thanks to Nagata slipping up earlier in the night and getting DQ'd, this is essentially a playoff with the winner advancing with Nakamura to the semi-finals. So a lot is on the line here.

Gotoh just can't seem to get his feet under him from the outset. He charges Sugiura and loses a strike battle that results in him getting tossed to the outside and more or less manhandled. From there on out, any offense he mounts not only gets a response, but a big one. Gotoh gets in a nice flurry about six minutes in but then gets cut in half by a Sugiura spear. Sug controls the pace before Gotoh's able to get a nifty counter in, but as soon as it gets broken, Sugs plants his head into the mat with a German than decapitates him with a running knee for good measure. Sug never lets up.. he hits a huge running powerbomb into the corner pad, before punting Gotoh's head into row 6. Gotoh's able to use his strong counter ability to stick around and bust out some cool near falls in order to keep things interesting, but this is a gun fight, and Sugiura brought a fvcking howitzer. For today at least, Gotoh doesn't have a shot. Sugiura plants him with an Olympic slam from the top rope and makes sure we don't get a repeat winner this year, and also punches a ticket to the semi-finals in the process. Easily the match of the tournament so far. Easily.

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Randy Orton/John Cena from Summerslam. Granted the first impressions are still fresh in my mind but I'll be damned if anyone is about to tell me this match isn't a legitimate contender for MOTD. Everything about the first half of the match was just straight up Orton doing what he does best(systematically beating things to death) and Cena doing what he does best(sustained selling and quick short comebacks). Before any of the screwy endings came into play this probably was already going to sit nicely on top of my MOTY list, then things got historical.

Orton gets himself DQ'ed almost the exact way he did at NWO 2008. Orton gets himself counted out like he did against Big Show. While the flash pin didn't allude to any instances specifically(that I can remember) it was still a great ode to all of his cheap title defenses of the past. Then the fan, man, the fan was the icing on the cake.

The total chaos that ensued from the fan's interference and Orton being the ONLY one focused enough to take advantage of the situation was the absolute perfect personification of exactly what Orton's character is! Most of the time Orton's tunnel vision has been perceived as his biggest flaw. Practically every hard loss in the last few years Orton's taken has been a direct result of his tunnel vision preventing him from seeing something unexpected from ruining his plans(Cyber Sunday with Austin as the ref and HHH's comeback recently). Tonight though the exact flaw that's caused Orton so much in the past was his best friend. His sociopathic NEED to be champion kept Orton totally focused on the matter at hand even when absolutely everything around him spiraled out of control. The genius of this booking was that it was so in context to everything the Randy Orton persona is all about.

I just, absolutely loved this match.

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Will second the Orton vs Cena from Summerslam. No need to explain why , the guy above me just did

Also from Summerslam , i'd like to nominate the D-Generation X vs Legacy match.

I reallly liked it. Legacy got plenty of offense here & seemed to have a counter for absolutely everything. Hell they even made me think that they would get the win at the end.
So yeah even if Legacy didn't win , they (in my view) took DX to the limit and proved they could go with top guys.
I would not refuse to see that feud continue.

Still have to watch the T.L.C match through

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I have to nominate CM Punk and Jeff Hardy from SummerSlam. Like others around here, I'm not a big fan of these matches because they tend to turn into stuntshows (especially when you get six guys doing nothing but spots). I've liked a few of the one-on-one TLC matches, but this is easily the best one out of all of them (probably the best flat-out ladder match since the 1990s). The hatred here is palpable, the irony of Jeff Hardy's risk satisfying (in a strange way . . . maybe "aesthetically" satisfying given how much Punk criticized Hardy's "live in the here and now; risk everything" lifestyle), and the cleanness of Punk's victory historic (for those of us who have followed his career since 2002). The chair shots are stiff, the spots aren't overly pointless, the selling is spot-on, and the action exciting enough to sustain interest AND character. It's really a beautiful combination of things.

Really a great match, I think. I have yet to watch the others, but I'm sure I'll like Cena/Orton a great deal and a few others.

Yes to Orton/Cena
Ssecond to the TLC match and DX/Legacy

Nominating Ziggler/Mysterio from last night, I think this match pretty much put Ziggler on the map. You could hear more people cheering for him as the match went on. Lots of interesting stuff in the match, but I'm not much for explaining matches anymore. Good stuff.

Best Summerslam in a loong time and I believe it knocked this years WM out of the park.

Randy Orton vs. John Cena, Summerslam 8/23 - Yes

Really fantastic match. They essentially just built off their previous matches, bringing back the finishes to both major matches (the missed punt at SS 07 and the Ref Shove from NWO 08).. but they also progressed things. They took it a step further. Orton looks even more dominant this time than he has in the past against Cena but when he bails on the match this time, he's not 'desperate' as he is almost matter of fact. People might not like the shmoz finish, but I certainly did. Even the 'crowd interference' plant-deal worked pretty well. This is as good as anything I've seen all year.

DX vs. the Legacy, Summerslam 8/23 - YES

So much better than I thought it would be. Triple H and Michaels usually blow when putting over younger talent, largely because they just don't give them the kind of offense they should get.. not the case here. The Legacy looks super-strong in defeat, cutting off a lot of traditional Hunter/Shawn offense. Overall, a yes.

CM Punk vs. Jeff Hardy, Summerslam 8/23 - YES

Best TLC match I've seen. It took them a little while to settle in, but once they did... oh my. I hate the usual 'let's set up chairs for 20 minutes' that over-prepare spots and blow finishes. The stuff here seemed to flow well but it was the HATE~ that Hardy brought towards the end that put this over the top for me. Between a clean victory over Hardy and Taker wanting a piece.... Punk looks like a legit star now.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Rey Mysterio, Summerslam 8/23 - YES

Because people needed more evidence of why Rey is the best wrestler on the planet right now... Ziggler looks great, but for all the RIGHT reasons, not because he has a cool finisher or whatever. Rey's so good at getting you INTO the character, into his emotions, etc. Ziggler's frustrations, getting pissy and making rookie mistakes... that's the kind of stuff that keeps people coming back. Good match.

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Yes to Cena-Orton, Ziggler-Mysterio, DX-Legacy, and the TLC from last night. All phenomnal matches and an awesome PPV.

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Ready for a Bryan Danielson return.

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A huge YES for the Punk/Hardy TLC match. Those who know me, know I despise ladder matches for their stuntiness - not pro wrestling, man. But I lurved this match - just couldn't get away from laptop at all, lucky no customers came in - don't know what I would have done " Fvck off man, I'll be out in 5" haha. Sure the huge swanton off the ladder was contrived, but I got that Hardy needed to hurt Punk rather than go for the title. With all the talk about Hardy leaving the E for the time being, I didn't think he was going to get up after that move.

No, no, no for Orton/Cena.

I got what they were trying to achieve but just too many negatives to ignore. From the way Lil G announced the re-starts, why does VKM care about Orton walking out, ok I know he got punted, but why start now. The feet on the rope was another - the officiating ref should have picked that up - would've been more swallowable. The "fan" running out was cool, as was Cena's look of perplexion, but him falling so easily into Orton's trap and RKO was again hard to swallow. I mean, Cena knows how Orton operates and as a super-human ex champion, he just shouldn't have fallen for that trap.

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YES VOTES:

Ziggler/Mysterio: Fun, competitive match.

Legacy/DX: HUGE YES, best tag team wrestling I've seen all year!

Cena/Orton: this was GOOD, but Great nah not really, great ringwork but too much stupid Sh!t. Still gets a YES!

Punk/Hardy TLC: Brutal TLC, smart TLC, if that was Hardy's last match it was a great one.

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An awesome YES to the TLC between Hardy & Punk.

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Yes to:

CM Punk vs Jeff Hardy, TLC Summerslam

Rey Mysterio vs Dolph Ziggler, Summerslam

A pair of fantastic matches on an otherwise dull show. Hardy/Punk wasn't as good as the house show match I saw between them, but it's probably the best possible match of it's kind, with only Cena/Edge TLC being clearly better. The spots that needed to be brutal were brutal, and the spots for the sake of spots were kept to a shocking minimum. The finish was also fantastic and a great segway to Punk vs Undertaker which should be phenomenal.

Rey/Dolph was superb. Probably the best Ziggler has ever looked. He still looked lost at points, but Rey is a superworker and they worked this really intelligently by putting emphasis on selling in between Dolph's big moves. Dolphs timing is also really good on catching Reys stuff (the crossbody dropkick counter, eating the moonsault) and being in the right positions at the right times so that it didn't look like Dolph was waiting around with his finger up his @$$ watching Rey go for stuff, but rather stepping right into them and taking the full impact. He still needs work offensively but the match played to his strengths and I think really elevated Dolph in defeat. Oh, and Mysterio is the best in the world. He has adjusted his style so he can now really work as a main event wrestler against lesser or equal workers of any style. The stuff he was doing in the mid-90's wouldn't fly on the top of the card anywhere... Japan, Mexico or the U.S., but the injuries have made him adjust and slow down and now he really is the best at working the pace of a main event match. At this point Rey is on the same level of Steamboat and Morton as a babyface worker.

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Every match on SummerSlam (Aside from Khali-Kane and the ECW Title match) deserves a nomination.

[quote="Mini Bennett"]Every match on SummerSlam (Aside from Khali-Kane and the ECW Title match) deserves a nomination.[/quote]


And for a quickie Hardy vs Punk Tonight on Smackdown that match made me kid again back and forth drama I nominate it as well.

A yes to Punk/Hardy cage match from SD 8/28/09. Even though I knew the result once they stipulated the match, the loser leaves WWE match, I still hoped against hope that it wouldn't be Jeff. And I don;t really like the guy, nor his style of wrestling. Go figure.

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I'm nominating: Ultimate X from DX, Shelley vs Sabin from Genesis (if it is not already nominated and then on the other hand a yes for it), Team 3D vs Beer Money and Xscape match from Lockdown, Suicide vs Daniels from Sac, both KOTM and The Monster's Ball from Slammiversary, Alissa Flash vs Sarita from Impact! on July 16, the Steel Asylum from Hard Justice, and the 20 man Gauntlet Six Sides of Steel cage match from Impact on March 27.

I say yes to Jarrett vs Angle from Genesis 09.


This list is too much WWE. Come on people, Cena vs Swagger was good but not the greatest match of the year good. That probably belongs to Taker vs HBK.

Assuming Aussie's 'yes' vote was actually a second to Vetrick's nomination of Punk / Hardy Steel Cage (SD 08/28), I'd like to offer another 'yes' to it.

Lots of escape attempts due to the damage already sustained from the TLC earlier in the week, which was portrayed consistently well through both performers' selling. Punk's heelishness on both ends of the match (the pre-bell assault, the eye-poke leading to Jeff's downfall) was cool to see, not to mention the final kick after Jeff's final departure from the area. He'll have some impressive heat heading into an interesting program with Undertaker.

An all-round solid set of matches for this feud, I'd say.

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I nominate Morrison vs Mysterio from 4/09/2009 Smackdown.This was a great,great match.

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Quote of the year

Yeah. I'll chuck in a tentative second whilst it remains fresh in people's minds. It does become a near-fall fest towards the end, but unlike many puro and indy matches I think it works here. At least on first impression. Regardless, I can say with confidence that Mysterio and Morrison do sell it better than most other examples I've seen. Moreover, the occasion seemed to call for it as the commentators began to bill it as one of John's biggest victories. This way, with the numerous near-falls, it felt as though he earnt it (both the strap and the match's praise) in an extremely competitive environment. Gives him a significant rub in a somewhat unfortunate scenario (i.e. Rey's suspension).

Weirdly enough, considering how Morrison can start to look lost during prolonged stretches of offense, a more even contest with the smaller Mysterio actually is more appropriate in my view. That said, I still think Morrison is best utilised as 'rising above' being dominated rather than being the main dictator of the match. It'll be interesting to see how well he works with Ziggler at Breaking Point, and what direction they take the performance. I have a feeling it could be better than what most would expect.

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I'm giving a yes to Mysterio/Morrison from Smackdown.

Also throwing yes's at Punk/Hardy from Summerslam as well as DX/Legacy and Orton/Cena from the same show.

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I'm nominating Sabin vs Styles and Styles vs Williams from Impact!. Both were solid matches that helped build Styles and made Williams look more credible.

Yeah, I'll also give my vote for this match; one of the best TV matches I've seen in a while.

Watching a a bunch of Smackdown over the week end so here's some "YES"

John Morrison vs Rey Mysterio - Intercontinental Title - SD 9/4
CM Punk vs Jeff Hardy - Steel Cage Loser Leaves WWE for the World Heavyweight Title -SD 8/28
Jeff Hardy vs John Morrison - World Heavyweight Title - SD 7/31
Rey Mysterio vs Chris Jericho - Intercontinental Title - SD 7/12

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John Morrison vs Rey Mysterio - Intercontinental Title - SD 9/4

I'll give this a yes. Spotty, but Jericho-Rey at the bash spotty. While this isn't that, its sort of a similar match and it works well as Morrison's stuff is pretty flashy, so its a good way to highlight him. Good babyface v. babyface 'offense away~' match that keeps the action moving and doesn't force Morrison into the position of having to sell, which is something he's not so spectacular at.... yet. Good match.


CM Punk vs Jeff Hardy - Steel Cage Loser Leaves WWE for the World Heavyweight Title -SD 8/28

This was utterly fantastic... A loser leaves town match in the WWE? With two smaller dudes? And WTF in a cage? Just the concept alone makes this pretty intriguing sh!t and if you're a mark and don't watch this stuff like us nerds do, then you'd be chewing off your hand. Two guys. Breaking through. Great matches. Both hugely over. Seems like they've got long careers ahead of them. That's something else...


Anyways, CM Punk has turned into OMGSUPERWURKR~ since turning heel, largely due to the fact that he doesn't do much other than act like a douchebag. He constantly cuts corners, chirps the whole time (especially when there are cameras near), thumbs eyes, bumps like a 'tard... And all of it was on display here. He's stuck in the cage door... so he's screaming for someone to ring the bell because the match was 'over'. The thumb to the eye that causes him to win. His stooging and antics afterwards and as if killing your arch rival's career wasn't enough..?? He blasts him as he's saying goodbye. Salt in the wound.

Hardy in cage matches always seems to be a win-win, because he has to dramaticaly adjust the way he works his matches. He presents himself as someone whose caged, literally and figuretively. He can't fly and flop like he usually does, and the cage almost always comes into play in some way, shape, or form with him. The last bump he took looked like it hurt. A lot.

Great match and something you don't see a whole heck of a lot in the WWE.

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It's a yes from me for the Punk/Hardy cage match. Seriously... how great has SmackDown been this year?

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****UPDATED LIST 9/7****


MOTY Top Contenders-- The cream of the crop. The crème de la crème. Not only no brainers to make the final ballot, but amongst the very elite matches of the year. You'll be going back and watching these for the rest of the year. If its on this select list, it'll likely place high on your ballot and could potentially be the match of the year.

Rey Mysterio v. Chris Jericho, The Bash 6/28 (12 Yes, 0 No) +12
Shawn Michaels v. John Cena, Raw 1/12 (11 Yes, 0 No) +11
Jack Swagger v. Christian, ECW Championship, ECW on Sci Fi, 2/24 (10 Yes, 0 No) +10
The Undertaker v. Shawn Michaels, Wrestlemania 25, 4/5 (10 Yes, 0 No) +10
Shinsuke Nakamura & Hirooki Goto v. Mitsuharu Misawa & Takashi Seguira, New Japan ¼ (9 Yes, 0 No) +9
Rey Mysterio v. Chris Jericho, Judgement Day 5/17 (8 Yes, 0 No) +8
Rey Mysterio v. Chris Jericho, No Holds Barred, Extreme Rules 6/7 (8 Yes, 0 No) +8
Jack Swagger v. Matt Hardy, ECW Championship, ECW on Sci Fi 1/13 (8 Yes, 1 No) +7
Jack Swagger v. Matt Hardy, ECW Championship, Royal Rumble 1/25 (8 Yes, 1No) +7
Hiroshi Tanahashi v. Shinsuke Nakamura, New Japan 2/15 (7 Yes, 0 No) +7
Raw Elimination Chamber, WWE Championship, No Way Out, 2/15 (7 Yes, 0 No) +7
CM Punk vs. Jeff Hardy, World Heavyweight Championship- TLC, Summerslam 8/23(7 Yes, 0 No) +7
Undertaker v. Shelton Benjamin, Smackdown 1/9 (6 Yes, 0 No) +6


MOTY Strong Candidates-- These are absolute final ballot material and with some support, could find themselves vying for the top spots amongst the strongest matches of the year. These are absolute, must see matches for sure.

Big Show v. John Cena, Smackdown, 2/27 (6 Yes, 1 No) +5
John Cena v. Shawn Michaels, Raw 1/19 (5 Yes, 0 No) +5
Kaval v. Tyson Kidd, FCW, 1/29 (5 Yes, 0 No) +5
Rey Mysterio v. Chris Jericho, Smackdown 7/12 (5 Yes, 0 No) +5
Randy Orton vs. John Cena, Summerslam 8/23 (6 Yes, 1 No) +5
DX vs. The Legacy, Summerslam 8/23 (4 Yes, 0 No) +5
Jeff Hardy vs. CM Punk, Loser Leaves Town Cage Match, Smackdown 8/28 (5 Yes, 0 No) +5
Triple H v. Big Show, Smackdown 1/9 (4 Yes, 1 No) +4
Takashi Sugiura & Go Shiozaki vs Shinsuke Nakamura & Milano Collection A.T. NOAH 3/1 (4 Yes, 0 No) +4
KENTA v. Nigel McGuiness, ROH 3/21 (2 Yes, 0 No) +4
Ricky Steamboat, John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Jeff Hardy & CM Punk v. Chris Jericho, Big Show, Edge, Kane & Matt Hardy, Raw 4/6 (4 Yes, 0 No) +4
John Morrison v. Evan Bourne, ECW 4/14 (3 Yes, 0 No) +4
The Legacy v. Triple H, Batista & Shane McMahon,WWE Championship, Backlash 4/26 (5 Yes, 1 No) +4
Christian v. Jack Swagger, ECW Championship, Judgement Day 5/17 (4Yes, 0 No) +4
Go Shiozaki v. Chris Hero, NOAH 6/4 (4 Yes, 1 No) +4
Jeff Hardy v. Edge, Ladder Match, Extreme Rules 6/7 (4 Yes, 1 No) +4
Randy Orton vs Triple H, WWE Championship, Last Man Standing, Raw 6/22 (4 Yes, 0 No) +4
John Morrison vs. Rey Mysterio, Smackdown 9/4 (4 yes, 0 No) +4


MOTY Ballot Worthy-- These are definitely 'good' matches, that will most likely make the final ballot. One 'no' vote could send one of these backwards and into bubble territory, but for the most part, these are strong matches that are worth going out of your way to see. They might not end up on everyone's final list, but they're very good matches.

Nigel McGuiness v. Bryan Danielson, ROH World title, Rising Above PPV, ROH 1/09 (3 Yes, 1 No) +3
Jack Swagger v. Finlay, ECW on Sci Fi 1/6 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Negro Casas & Heavy Metal v. La Sombra & Valador Jr., CMLL 2/13 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Big Show v. John Cena, Raw 3/30 (4 Yes, 1 No) +3
Christian v. Jack Swagger, ECW Championship, Backlash 4/26 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Big Show v. The Undertaker, Smackdown 4/24 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Umaga v. CM Punk, Judgement Day 5/17 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Randy Orton v. Big Show v. John Cena v. Triple H, WWE Championship, Raw 6/15 (3 Y, 0 N) +3
CM Punk v. Jeff Hardy, World Hvt. Championship, Night of Champions 7/26 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Randy Orton vs. John Cena, Summerslam 8/23 (4 Yes, 1 No) +3
Rey Mysterio vs. Dolph Ziggler, Summerslam 8/23 (3 Yes,0 No) +3
Kurt Angle v. Jeff Jarrett, Genesis, 1/11 (6 Yes, 3 No) +3
Hiroshi Tanahashi v. Keiji Mutoh, IWGP Hvt Title, New Japan ¼ (4 Yes, 2 No) +2
KENTA v. Kotaro Suzuki, GHC Jr. Heavyweight Championship, NOAH 1/25 (3 Yes, 1 No) +2
Chris Jericho v. Ricky Steamboat, Jimmy Snuka & Roddy Piper, Wrestlemania 25, 4/5 (2 Yes, 0 No) +2
John Cena v. Jack Swagger, Raw 4/13 (2 Yes, 0 No) +2
Edge v. Rey Mysterio, Smackdown 6/5 (2 Yes, 0 No) +2




MOTY Ballot Bubble-- The Matches that are borderline ballot matches and at this point could go either way. Some of these are matches that are either very divisive in opinion, or usually newly nominated and seconded and have mustered a small amount of support. Make sure you check these out! If the ballot were to be formed today, these would all be left off!

Mammoth Sasaki & Daisuke Sekimoto v. Shinya Ishikawa & Yoshihito Sasaki, Big Japan ½ (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
John Cena & Shawn Michaels v. Chris Jericho & Randy Orton, Raw, 1/5 (2 Yes, 1 No) +1
CM Punk v. William Regal, No DQ, Raw 1/19 (2 Yes, 1 No) +1
Jushin "Thunder" Liger v. Daisuke Sekimoto, Big Japan 1/22 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Alexander Otsuka vs. Yujiro Yamamoto - BATTLARTS 2/15 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Katsumi Usuda vs. Yuta Yoshikawa - BATTLARTS 2/15 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
The Colons v. Miz & Morrison, Smackdown 2/27 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Taiyo Kea & Minoru Suzuki v. SUWAMA & Shuji Kondo, All Japan 3/15 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Alexander Otsuka v. Daisuke Sekimoto, IGF GENOME 8, 3/15 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Mistico v. Negro Casas, CMLL 3/20 (1 yes, 0 No) +1
Giant Bernard v. Yutaka Yoshie, New Japan 3/22 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Beer Money v. Team 3D, TNA Lockdown 4/19 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Big Show v. Jeff Hardy, Smackdown 4/18 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Evan Bourne & The Colons v. Tyson Kidd, The Miz & John Morrison, ECW 4/7 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Christian v. Mark Henry, Superstars 5/14 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Edge v. John Morrison, Smackdown 6/19 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Go Shiozaki/KENTA v. Katsuhiku Nakajima/Kensuke Sasake, NOAH 6/23 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
CM Punk v. Jeff Hardy, World Hvt. Championship, The Bash 6/28 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Randy Orton v. Ted Dibiase, Raw 7/6 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
CM Punk vs. John Morrison, Smackdown 8/14 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1




MOTY Nominations-- These matches have taken that bold and perhaps first step towards immortality or the outer reaches of our hard drives. They've been pegged as 'you should check it out', but ultimately, their fate lies in your hands! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEY STAND~

Alexander Otsuka vs Yuki Ishikawa, BattlARTS 1/10 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Minoru Suzuki & NOSAWA Rongai vs. Keiji Muto & Kaz Hayashi, All Japan 1/3 (1 Yes, 1 No) EVEN
Yuji Nagata v. Masato Tanaka, ZERO-ONE World Championship, New Japan ¼ (2 Yes, 2 No) EVEN
Eddie Kingston v. Delirious, CHIKARA 1/25 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
The Osrian Portal v. The Colony, CHIKARA 1/25 (1 Yes, 1 No) EVEN
Equinox v. Vin Gerard, Ladder Match, CHIKARA 1/25 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Smackdown Elimination Chamber, No Way Out, WWE 2/15 (1 Yes,1 No) EVEN
Rey Mysterio v. Mike Knox, Raw, 2/16 (2 Yes, 2 No) EVEN
Jerry Lawler v. Bill Dundee, NWA Wildside 3/14 (1 Yes, 1 No) EVEN
Hirooki Gotoh v. Yuji Nagata, New Japan 3/22 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Hirooki Gotoh v. Giant Bernard, New Japan 3/22 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Bryan Danielson, Claudio Castagnoli, and Dave Taylor vs Johnny Saint, Mike Quackenbush, and Skayde, Chikara 3/28 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Valiente, Mascara Dorada, & Metro vs Virus, Euforia, & Nosferatu CMLL 4/10/09 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
CM Punk v. Kane, Backlash 4/26 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Valiente vs Virus CMLL 3/4/09 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Hirooki Goto & Kazuchika Okada vs. Takashi Sugiura & Atsushi Aoki, New Japan 5/5 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas v. CM Punk & John Morrison, Smackdown (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Negro Navarro v. Solar, UWE 5/16 (0Yes, 0 No) EVEN
John Morrison v. Shelton Benjamin, Judgement Day 5/17 (1 Yes, 1 No) EVEN
Jun Akyama v. KENTA, NOAH 5/17 (0 Yes, ) No) EVEN
Ricky Marvin v. Taiji Ishimori, SEM 5/18 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Beer Money v. British Invasion, TNA Sacrifice 5/24 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Christian v. Tyson Kidd, ECW on Sci Fi 6/2 (1 Yes, 1 No) EVEN
Batista v. Randy Orton, Steel Cage, Extreme Rules 6/7 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
DH Smith v. Christian, ECW on Sci Fi 6/16 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Rey Mysterio v. CM Punk, Smackdown 6/16 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Zatura vs Trauma II, IWRG 6/18 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Nabutaka Araya v. Satoshi Kojima, All Japan 6/21 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Go Shiozaki v. KENTA, NOAH 7/5 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
KENTA v. Davey Richards, ROH 4/3 (0 Yes, 1 No) -1
John Cena v. Edge v. Big Show ,Wrestlemania 25, 4/5 (0 Yes, 1 No) -1
Christian v. Shelton Benjamin, Raw 4/13, (0 Yes, 1 No) -1
John Cena v. Chris Jericho, Raw, 2/2 (1 Yes, 2 No) -1
John Cena v. Edge, Last Man Standing, Backlash 4/26 (0 Yes, 1 No) -1
Edge v. Jeff Hardy, World Heavyweight Championship, Judgment Day 5/17 (1 Yes, 2 No) -1
Jeff Hardy vs. John Morrison, Smackdown 7/21 (1 Yes, 2 No) -1
Bryan Danielson, Claudio Castagnoli, and Dave Taylor vs Johnny Saint, Mike Quackenbush, and Skayde, CHIKARA, 3/28 (0 Yes, 2 No) -2
Matt Hardy v. Jeff Hardy, Wrestlemania 25, 4/5 (0 Yes, 2 No) -2
Rey Mysterio v. Evan Bourne, Raw 4/13 (0Yes, 2 No) -2


MOTY Pretenders-- Most medicines killed a lot of people before they were perfected and made better. Though we are magicians and generally speaking, 'perfect', we have 'imperfect' moments. These are guilty pleasures. Or maybe they're that fat chick you hooked up with and don't want anyone to know about. These, well... are those.

Royal Rumble Match, Royal Rumble 1/25 (0 Yes, 4 No) -4
Randy Orton v. Shane McMahon, Unsactioned Fight, Raw, 2/16 (0 Yes, 4 No) -4
John Morrison & The Miz v. The Colons, Smackdown 1/23 (1 Yes, 5 No) -4
MVP v. The Big Show, Last Man Standing, Smackdown 1/16 (0 Yes, 4 No) -4
Kensuke Sasaki & Kota Ibushi v. Jun Akiyama & Taiji Ishimori, Kensuke Office 2/11 (0 Yes, 4 No) -4
Alex Shelley v. Chris Sabin, X-Division Title, Genesis, 1/11 (1 Yes, 6 No) -5
Edge v. Jeff Hardy, WWE Championship, Royal Rumble, 1/25 (0 Yes, 6 No) -6
Shawn Michaels v. Vladimir Kozlov, Raw 3/2 (0 Yes, 8 No) -8

MOTY: “I Need a Hero”-- These matches have been nominated but no one wants to be their friend! They need your second to get on the list to have that shot. Check em out, or just ignore them. Either way, you KNOW.


Hirooki Gotoh & Jushin Liger v. Yuji Nagata & Tiger Mask, New Japan 1/31 (Nominated: Towney)
Shinsuke Nakamura, Hirooki Goto & Kazuchika Okada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi, Yuji Nagata & Nobuo Yoshihashi, New Japan 2/13 (Nominated: Towney)
Kurt Angle v. Giant Bernard, New Japan 2/15 (Nominated: Scottie)
Kurt Angle v. Sting, Empty Arena Match, TNA 2/19 (Nominated: Crow 013)
(Nominated: Smack2K)
Kikutaro vs. Nobutaka Araya , All Japan 1/3 (Nominated: Scottie)
Negro Navarro/Claudio Castagnoli/Mr. Ferrari v. Mike Quackenbush/Solar/Kendo LLM 3/8 (Nominated: Graham Crackers)
Suicide vs. Chris Sabin v. Alex Shelley v. Consequences Creed v. Jay Lethal, TNA 3/15 (nominated: tucanforpres001)
The Undertaker v. JBL, Smackdown 3/20 (Nominated: isrs4life)
Suicide vs. Christopher Daniels, TNA 3/24 (Nominated: Tucanforpres001)
KENTA v. Katsuhiko Nakajima, ROH 4/3 (Nominated: stonecoldnimrod)
Roderick Strong v. Katsuhiku Nakajima, ROH 4/4 (Nominated: stonecoldnimrod)
Money in the Bank Ladder Match, Wrestlemania 25, 4/5 (Nominated: Rated R Bitch)
Negro Navarro, Trauma I, and II vs Black Terry, Dr. Cerebro, and Cerebro Negro IWRG 4/16 (Nominated: Graham Crackers)
MVP v. Dolph Ziggler, Smackdown 4/18 (Nominated: Crow013)
Negro Navarro, Trauma I, and II vs Black Terry, Dr. Cerebro, and Cerebro Negro IWRG 4/23 (Nominated: Graham Crackers)
John Cena v. Edge, Last Man Standing, Backlash 4/26 (Nominated: PSULions)
MVP v. Randy Orton, Raw 4/27 (Nominated Crow013)
Máscara Dorada, Metro & Valiente VS Okumura, Skándalo & Virus CMLL 4/17/09 (Nominated: GC)
Tommy Dreamer & Christian v. Jack Swagger & Mark Henry, ECW on Sci Fi 5/5 (Nominated: HooRah)
Manabu Nakanishi v. Hiroshi Tanahashi, New Japan 5/6 (Nominated: Towney007)
Shelton Benjamin v. Rey Mysterio, Smackdown 5/15 (Nominated: Supermophetbros)
John Morrison v. Chris Jericho, Smackdown 5/15 (Nominated: Supermophetbros)
John Cena v. Big Show, Judgment Day 5/17 (Nominated Crow013)
Randy Orton v. Batista, WWE Championship, Judgement Day 5/17 (Nominated: Crow013)
DH Smith v. Finlay, ECW on Sci Fi 5/19 (Nominated: isrs4life)
Yuko Miyamoto & Takashi Sasaki vs. Masashi Takeda & Isami Kodaka II, Big Japan 5/28 (Nominated: loneassasin1)
Blue Panther v. Averno, CMLL 5/29 (Nominated: Graham Crackers)
Tommy Dreamer v. Christian v. Jack Swagger, ECW on Sci Fi 6/2 (Nominated: HCSO2009)
Kenta v. Ricky Marvin, NOAH 6/7 (Nominated: Towney007)
Umaga v. CM Punk, Samoan Strap Match, Extreme Rules 6/7 (Nominated: Scottie)
Tyson Kidd v. Evan Bourne, ECW on Sci Fi 6/9 (Nominated: Mini Bennett)
Chris Jericho v. John Morrison, Superstars 6/11 (Nominated: HooRah)
Jack Swagger v. Tommy Dreamer, ECW on Sci Fi 6/16 (Nominated: Crowe013)
Kurt Angle vs. Mick Foley vs. Jeff Jarrett vs. Sting vs. Samoa Joe vs. AJ Styles, King of the Mountain, TNA 6/21 (nominated: Tucanforpres001)
Abyss & Taylor Wilde vs. Dr. Stevie & Daffney, TNA 6/21 (Nominated: Tucanforpres001)
Suicide vs. Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley vs. Consequences Creed vs. Jay Lethal, King of the Mountain, TNA 6/21 (Tucanforpres001)
CM Punk v. John Morrison, Smackdown 6/26 (Nominated: HooRah)
Chris Hero v. Jerry Lynn, ROH 6/13 (Nominated: OneManX)
Kota Ibushi & Atushi Aoki vs KENTA & Taiji Ishimori NOAH 7/12 (Nomination: loneassassin1)
R-Truth vs. Charlie Haas, Smackdown 7/4 (Nominated: isrs)
Alyssa Flash vs. Sarita, TNA iMPACT 7/16 (Nominated: Tucanforpres001)
Mark Henry vs. Chris Jericho, Raw 7/20 (Nominated: Towney007)
Christian vs Tommy Dreamer, ECW Championship, Hardcore Rules, ECW on Sci Fi 8/4 (Nominated: The Fonz)
Goldust vs. Sheamus, Superstars 8/13 (Nominated: HooRah)
Christopher Daniels vs. Amazing Red vs. Consequences Creed vs. Jay Lethal vs. Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley vs. D'Angelo Dinero, TNA 8/16 (Nominated: Tucanforpres001)
Jeff Hardy & John Morrison vs. CM Punk & The Hart Dynasty, Smackdown 8/21(Nominated: The Haiti Kid)
Takashi Sugiura vs. Hirooki Gotoh, G1 Cilmax Block-B, New Japan 8/15 (Nominated: Towney)
AJ Styles vs. Doug Williams, TNA iMPACT 9/3 (Nominated: Tucanforpres001)
AJ Styles vs. Chris Sabin, TNA iMPACT 9/3 (Tucanforpres001)

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[quote="towney007"][b]****UPDATED LIST 9/7****[/b]


[b]MOTY Top Contenders-- [/b]The cream of the crop. The crème de la crème. Not only no brainers to make the final ballot, but amongst the very elite matches of the year. You'll be going back and watching these for the rest of the year. If its on this select list, it'll likely place high on your ballot and could potentially be the match of the year.

Rey Mysterio v. Chris Jericho, The Bash 6/28 (12 Yes, 0 No) +12
Shawn Michaels v. John Cena, Raw 1/12 (11 Yes, 0 No) +11
Jack Swagger v. Christian, ECW Championship, ECW on Sci Fi, 2/24 (10 Yes, 0 No) +10
The Undertaker v. Shawn Michaels, Wrestlemania 25, 4/5 (10 Yes, 0 No) +10
Shinsuke Nakamura & Hirooki Goto v. Mitsuharu Misawa & Takashi Seguira, New Japan ¼ (9 Yes, 0 No) +9
Rey Mysterio v. Chris Jericho, Judgement Day 5/17 (8 Yes, 0 No) +8
Rey Mysterio v. Chris Jericho, No Holds Barred, Extreme Rules 6/7 (8 Yes, 0 No) +8
Jack Swagger v. Matt Hardy, ECW Championship, ECW on Sci Fi 1/13 (8 Yes, 1 No) +7
Jack Swagger v. Matt Hardy, ECW Championship, Royal Rumble 1/25 (8 Yes, 1No) +7
Hiroshi Tanahashi v. Shinsuke Nakamura, New Japan 2/15 (7 Yes, 0 No) +7
Raw Elimination Chamber, WWE Championship, No Way Out, 2/15 (7 Yes, 0 No) +7
CM Punk vs. Jeff Hardy, World Heavyweight Championship- TLC, Summerslam 8/23(7 Yes, 0 No) +7
Undertaker v. Shelton Benjamin, Smackdown 1/9 (6 Yes, 0 No) +6


[b]MOTY Strong Candidates--[/b] These are absolute final ballot material and with some support, could find themselves vying for the top spots amongst the strongest matches of the year. These are absolute, must see matches for sure.

Big Show v. John Cena, Smackdown, 2/27 (6 Yes, 1 No) +5
John Cena v. Shawn Michaels, Raw 1/19 (5 Yes, 0 No) +5
Kaval v. Tyson Kidd, FCW, 1/29 (5 Yes, 0 No) +5
Rey Mysterio v. Chris Jericho, Smackdown 7/12 (5 Yes, 0 No) +5
Randy Orton vs. John Cena, Summerslam 8/23 (6 Yes, 1 No) +5
DX vs. The Legacy, Summerslam 8/23 (4 Yes, 0 No) +5
Jeff Hardy vs. CM Punk, Loser Leaves Town Cage Match, Smackdown 8/28 (5 Yes, 0 No) +5
Triple H v. Big Show, Smackdown 1/9 (4 Yes, 1 No) +4
Takashi Sugiura & Go Shiozaki vs Shinsuke Nakamura & Milano Collection A.T. NOAH 3/1 (4 Yes, 0 No) +4
KENTA v. Nigel McGuiness, ROH 3/21 (2 Yes, 0 No) +4
Ricky Steamboat, John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Jeff Hardy & CM Punk v. Chris Jericho, Big Show, Edge, Kane & Matt Hardy, Raw 4/6 (4 Yes, 0 No) +4
John Morrison v. Evan Bourne, ECW 4/14 (3 Yes, 0 No) +4
The Legacy v. Triple H, Batista & Shane McMahon,WWE Championship, Backlash 4/26 (5 Yes, 1 No) +4
Christian v. Jack Swagger, ECW Championship, Judgement Day 5/17 (4Yes, 0 No) +4
Go Shiozaki v. Chris Hero, NOAH 6/4 (4 Yes, 1 No) +4
Jeff Hardy v. Edge, Ladder Match, Extreme Rules 6/7 (4 Yes, 1 No) +4
Randy Orton vs Triple H, WWE Championship, Last Man Standing, Raw 6/22 (4 Yes, 0 No) +4
John Morrison vs. Rey Mysterio, Smackdown 9/4 (4 yes, 0 No) +4


[b]MOTY Ballot Worthy--[/b] These are definitely 'good' matches, that will most likely make the final ballot. One 'no' vote could send one of these backwards and into bubble territory, but for the most part, these are strong matches that are worth going out of your way to see. They might not end up on everyone's final list, but they're very good matches.

Nigel McGuiness v. Bryan Danielson, ROH World title, Rising Above PPV, ROH 1/09 (3 Yes, 1 No) +3
Jack Swagger v. Finlay, ECW on Sci Fi 1/6 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Negro Casas & Heavy Metal v. La Sombra & Valador Jr., CMLL 2/13 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Big Show v. John Cena, Raw 3/30 (4 Yes, 1 No) +3
Christian v. Jack Swagger, ECW Championship, Backlash 4/26 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Big Show v. The Undertaker, Smackdown 4/24 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Umaga v. CM Punk, Judgement Day 5/17 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Randy Orton v. Big Show v. John Cena v. Triple H, WWE Championship, Raw 6/15 (3 Y, 0 N) +3
CM Punk v. Jeff Hardy, World Hvt. Championship, Night of Champions 7/26 (3 Yes, 0 No) +3
Randy Orton vs. John Cena, Summerslam 8/23 (4 Yes, 1 No) +3
Rey Mysterio vs. Dolph Ziggler, Summerslam 8/23 (3 Yes,0 No) +3
Kurt Angle v. Jeff Jarrett, Genesis, 1/11 (6 Yes, 3 No) +3
Hiroshi Tanahashi v. Keiji Mutoh, IWGP Hvt Title, New Japan ¼ (4 Yes, 2 No) +2
KENTA v. Kotaro Suzuki, GHC Jr. Heavyweight Championship, NOAH 1/25 (3 Yes, 1 No) +2
Chris Jericho v. Ricky Steamboat, Jimmy Snuka & Roddy Piper, Wrestlemania 25, 4/5 (2 Yes, 0 No) +2
John Cena v. Jack Swagger, Raw 4/13 (2 Yes, 0 No) +2
Edge v. Rey Mysterio, Smackdown 6/5 (2 Yes, 0 No) +2




[b]MOTY Ballot Bubble-- [/b]The Matches that are borderline ballot matches and at this point could go either way. Some of these are matches that are either very divisive in opinion, or usually newly nominated and seconded and have mustered a small amount of support. Make sure you check these out! If the ballot were to be formed today, these would all be left off!

Mammoth Sasaki & Daisuke Sekimoto v. Shinya Ishikawa & Yoshihito Sasaki, Big Japan ½ (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
John Cena & Shawn Michaels v. Chris Jericho & Randy Orton, Raw, 1/5 (2 Yes, 1 No) +1
CM Punk v. William Regal, No DQ, Raw 1/19 (2 Yes, 1 No) +1
Jushin "Thunder" Liger v. Daisuke Sekimoto, Big Japan 1/22 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Alexander Otsuka vs. Yujiro Yamamoto - BATTLARTS 2/15 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Katsumi Usuda vs. Yuta Yoshikawa - BATTLARTS 2/15 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
The Colons v. Miz & Morrison, Smackdown 2/27 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Taiyo Kea & Minoru Suzuki v. SUWAMA & Shuji Kondo, All Japan 3/15 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Alexander Otsuka v. Daisuke Sekimoto, IGF GENOME 8, 3/15 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Mistico v. Negro Casas, CMLL 3/20 (1 yes, 0 No) +1
Giant Bernard v. Yutaka Yoshie, New Japan 3/22 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Beer Money v. Team 3D, TNA Lockdown 4/19 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Big Show v. Jeff Hardy, Smackdown 4/18 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Evan Bourne & The Colons v. Tyson Kidd, The Miz & John Morrison, ECW 4/7 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Christian v. Mark Henry, Superstars 5/14 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Edge v. John Morrison, Smackdown 6/19 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Go Shiozaki/KENTA v. Katsuhiku Nakajima/Kensuke Sasake, NOAH 6/23 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
CM Punk v. Jeff Hardy, World Hvt. Championship, The Bash 6/28 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
Randy Orton v. Ted Dibiase, Raw 7/6 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1
CM Punk vs. John Morrison, Smackdown 8/14 (1 Yes, 0 No) +1




[b]MOTY Nominations--[/b] These matches have taken that bold and perhaps first step towards immortality or the outer reaches of our hard drives. They've been pegged as 'you should check it out', but ultimately, their fate lies in your hands! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEY STAND~

Alexander Otsuka vs Yuki Ishikawa, BattlARTS 1/10 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Minoru Suzuki & NOSAWA Rongai vs. Keiji Muto & Kaz Hayashi, All Japan 1/3 (1 Yes, 1 No) EVEN
Yuji Nagata v. Masato Tanaka, ZERO-ONE World Championship, New Japan ¼ (2 Yes, 2 No) EVEN
Eddie Kingston v. Delirious, CHIKARA 1/25 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
The Osrian Portal v. The Colony, CHIKARA 1/25 (1 Yes, 1 No) EVEN
Equinox v. Vin Gerard, Ladder Match, CHIKARA 1/25 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Smackdown Elimination Chamber, No Way Out, WWE 2/15 (1 Yes,1 No) EVEN
Rey Mysterio v. Mike Knox, Raw, 2/16 (2 Yes, 2 No) EVEN
Jerry Lawler v. Bill Dundee, NWA Wildside 3/14 (1 Yes, 1 No) EVEN
Hirooki Gotoh v. Yuji Nagata, New Japan 3/22 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Hirooki Gotoh v. Giant Bernard, New Japan 3/22 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Bryan Danielson, Claudio Castagnoli, and Dave Taylor vs Johnny Saint, Mike Quackenbush, and Skayde, Chikara 3/28 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Valiente, Mascara Dorada, & Metro vs Virus, Euforia, & Nosferatu CMLL 4/10/09 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
CM Punk v. Kane, Backlash 4/26 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Valiente vs Virus CMLL 3/4/09 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Hirooki Goto & Kazuchika Okada vs. Takashi Sugiura & Atsushi Aoki, New Japan 5/5 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas v. CM Punk & John Morrison, Smackdown (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Negro Navarro v. Solar, UWE 5/16 (0Yes, 0 No) EVEN
John Morrison v. Shelton Benjamin, Judgement Day 5/17 (1 Yes, 1 No) EVEN
Jun Akyama v. KENTA, NOAH 5/17 (0 Yes, ) No) EVEN
Ricky Marvin v. Taiji Ishimori, SEM 5/18 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Beer Money v. British Invasion, TNA Sacrifice 5/24 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Christian v. Tyson Kidd, ECW on Sci Fi 6/2 (1 Yes, 1 No) EVEN
Batista v. Randy Orton, Steel Cage, Extreme Rules 6/7 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
DH Smith v. Christian, ECW on Sci Fi 6/16 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Rey Mysterio v. CM Punk, Smackdown 6/16 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Zatura vs Trauma II, IWRG 6/18 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Nabutaka Araya v. Satoshi Kojima, All Japan 6/21 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
Go Shiozaki v. KENTA, NOAH 7/5 (0 Yes, 0 No) EVEN
KENTA v. Davey Richards, ROH 4/3 (0 Yes, 1 No) -1
John Cena v. Edge v. Big Show ,Wrestlemania 25, 4/5 (0 Yes, 1 No) -1
Christian v. Shelton Benjamin, Raw 4/13, (0 Yes, 1 No) -1
John Cena v. Chris Jericho, Raw, 2/2 (1 Yes, 2 No) -1
John Cena v. Edge, Last Man Standing, Backlash 4/26 (0 Yes, 1 No) -1
Edge v. Jeff Hardy, World Heavyweight Championship, Judgment Day 5/17 (1 Yes, 2 No) -1
Jeff Hardy vs. John Morrison, Smackdown 7/21 (1 Yes, 2 No) -1
Bryan Danielson, Claudio Castagnoli, and Dave Taylor vs Johnny Saint, Mike Quackenbush, and Skayde, CHIKARA, 3/28 (0 Yes, 2 No) -2
Matt Hardy v. Jeff Hardy, Wrestlemania 25, 4/5 (0 Yes, 2 No) -2
Rey Mysterio v. Evan Bourne, Raw 4/13 (0Yes, 2 No) -2


[b]MOTY Pretenders--[/b] Most medicines killed a lot of people before they were perfected and made better. Though we are magicians and generally speaking, 'perfect', we have 'imperfect' moments. These are guilty pleasures. Or maybe they're that fat chick you hooked up with and don't want anyone to know about. These, well... are those.

Royal Rumble Match, Royal Rumble 1/25 (0 Yes, 4 No) -4
Randy Orton v. Shane McMahon, Unsactioned Fight, Raw, 2/16 (0 Yes, 4 No) -4
John Morrison & The Miz v. The Colons, Smackdown 1/23 (1 Yes, 5 No) -4
MVP v. The Big Show, Last Man Standing, Smackdown 1/16 (0 Yes, 4 No) -4
Kensuke Sasaki & Kota Ibushi v. Jun Akiyama & Taiji Ishimori, Kensuke Office 2/11 (0 Yes, 4 No) -4
Alex Shelley v. Chris Sabin, X-Division Title, Genesis, 1/11 (1 Yes, 6 No) -5
Edge v. Jeff Hardy, WWE Championship, Royal Rumble, 1/25 (0 Yes, 6 No) -6
Shawn Michaels v. Vladimir Kozlov, Raw 3/2 (0 Yes, 8 No) -8

MOTY: “I Need a Hero”-- These matches have been nominated but no one wants to be their friend! They need your second to get on the list to have that shot. Check em out, or just ignore them. Either way, you KNOW.


[i]Hirooki Gotoh & Jushin Liger v. Yuji Nagata & Tiger Mask, New Japan 1/31 (Nominated: Towney)
Shinsuke Nakamura, Hirooki Goto & Kazuchika Okada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi, Yuji Nagata & Nobuo Yoshihashi, New Japan 2/13 (Nominated: Towney)
Kurt Angle v. Giant Bernard, New Japan 2/15 (Nominated: Scottie)
Kurt Angle v. Sting, Empty Arena Match, TNA 2/19 (Nominated: Crow 013)
(Nominated: Smack2K)
Kikutaro vs. Nobutaka Araya , All Japan 1/3 (Nominated: Scottie)
Negro Navarro/Claudio Castagnoli/Mr. Ferrari v. Mike Quackenbush/Solar/Kendo LLM 3/8 (Nominated: Graham Crackers)
Suicide vs. Chris Sabin v. Alex Shelley v. Consequences Creed v. Jay Lethal, TNA 3/15 (nominated: tucanforpres001)
The Undertaker v. JBL, Smackdown 3/20 (Nominated: isrs4life)
Suicide vs. Christopher Daniels, TNA 3/24 (Nominated: Tucanforpres001)
KENTA v. Katsuhiko Nakajima, ROH 4/3 (Nominated: stonecoldnimrod)
Roderick Strong v. Katsuhiku Nakajima, ROH 4/4 (Nominated: stonecoldnimrod)
Money in the Bank Ladder Match, Wrestlemania 25, 4/5 (Nominated: Rated R Bitch)
Negro Navarro, Trauma I, and II vs Black Terry, Dr. Cerebro, and Cerebro Negro IWRG 4/16 (Nominated: Graham Crackers)
MVP v. Dolph Ziggler, Smackdown 4/18 (Nominated: Crow013)
Negro Navarro, Trauma I, and II vs Black Terry, Dr. Cerebro, and Cerebro Negro IWRG 4/23 (Nominated: Graham Crackers)
John Cena v. Edge, Last Man Standing, Backlash 4/26 (Nominated: PSULions)
MVP v. Randy Orton, Raw 4/27 (Nominated Crow013)
Máscara Dorada, Metro & Valiente VS Okumura, Skándalo & Virus CMLL 4/17/09 (Nominated: GC)
Tommy Dreamer & Christian v. Jack Swagger & Mark Henry, ECW on Sci Fi 5/5 (Nominated: HooRah)
Manabu Nakanishi v. Hiroshi Tanahashi, New Japan 5/6 (Nominated: Towney007)
Shelton Benjamin v. Rey Mysterio, Smackdown 5/15 (Nominated: Supermophetbros)
John Morrison v. Chris Jericho, Smackdown 5/15 (Nominated: Supermophetbros)
John Cena v. Big Show, Judgment Day 5/17 (Nominated Crow013)
Randy Orton v. Batista, WWE Championship, Judgement Day 5/17 (Nominated: Crow013)
DH Smith v. Finlay, ECW on Sci Fi 5/19 (Nominated: isrs4life)
Yuko Miyamoto & Takashi Sasaki vs. Masashi Takeda & Isami Kodaka II, Big Japan 5/28 (Nominated: loneassasin1)
Blue Panther v. Averno, CMLL 5/29 (Nominated: Graham Crackers)
Tommy Dreamer v. Christian v. Jack Swagger, ECW on Sci Fi 6/2 (Nominated: HCSO2009)
Kenta v. Ricky Marvin, NOAH 6/7 (Nominated: Towney007)
Umaga v. CM Punk, Samoan Strap Match, Extreme Rules 6/7 (Nominated: Scottie)
Tyson Kidd v. Evan Bourne, ECW on Sci Fi 6/9 (Nominated: Mini Bennett)
Chris Jericho v. John Morrison, Superstars 6/11 (Nominated: HooRah)
Jack Swagger v. Tommy Dreamer, ECW on Sci Fi 6/16 (Nominated: Crowe013)
Kurt Angle vs. Mick Foley vs. Jeff Jarrett vs. Sting vs. Samoa Joe vs. AJ Styles, King of the Mountain, TNA 6/21 (nominated: Tucanforpres001)
Abyss & Taylor Wilde vs. Dr. Stevie & Daffney, TNA 6/21 (Nominated: Tucanforpres001)
Suicide vs. Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley vs. Consequences Creed vs. Jay Lethal, King of the Mountain, TNA 6/21 (Tucanforpres001)
CM Punk v. John Morrison, Smackdown 6/26 (Nominated: HooRah)
Chris Hero v. Jerry Lynn, ROH 6/13 (Nominated: OneManX)
Kota Ibushi & Atushi Aoki vs KENTA & Taiji Ishimori NOAH 7/12 (Nomination: loneassassin1)
R-Truth vs. Charlie Haas, Smackdown 7/4 (Nominated: isrs)
Alyssa Flash vs. Sarita, TNA iMPACT 7/16 (Nominated: Tucanforpres001)
Mark Henry vs. Chris Jericho, Raw 7/20 (Nominated: Towney007)
Christian vs Tommy Dreamer, ECW Championship, Hardcore Rules, ECW on Sci Fi 8/4 (Nominated: The Fonz)
Goldust vs. Sheamus, Superstars 8/13 (Nominated: HooRah)
Christopher Daniels vs. Amazing Red vs. Consequences Creed vs. Jay Lethal vs. Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley vs. D'Angelo Dinero, TNA 8/16 (Nominated: Tucanforpres001)
Jeff Hardy & John Morrison vs. CM Punk & The Hart Dynasty, Smackdown 8/21(Nominated: The Haiti Kid)
Takashi Sugiura vs. Hirooki Gotoh, G1 Cilmax Block-B, New Japan 8/15 (Nominated: Towney)
AJ Styles vs. Doug Williams, TNA iMPACT 9/3 (Nominated: Tucanforpres001)
AJ Styles vs. Chris Sabin, TNA iMPACT 9/3 (Tucanforpres001)
[/i][/quote]

I noticed two small problems in the list. One Daniels vs Suicide was in May not March; you have it listed as 3/24 and I believe I nominated the 20 man six sides of steel cage match from Impact in late March early Aprilish. Just thought I would mention that.

BATTY BATTY BAT BAT~!

These past few days I've been catching up on 2009's Battlarts shows. I'm not sure whether the quality I perceive in these matches are due to them individually being 'good' or because I really enjoy the style as a whole. I'll let the other two or three fans of BatBat decide if I'm on crack or not. Regardless, here's the nominations:

Yuta Yoshikawa vs. Tiger Shark – BATTLARTS B-1 Climax Tournament (Block A) 07.05.2009

Yujiro Yamamoto vs. Baisen TAGIA – BATTLARTS B-1 Climax Tournament (Block B) 07.05.2009

There's another two matches from the 07.05 show I want to watch again before chucking out more nominations. These, however, I thought were mostly good. Neither are on par with the Battlarts matches already nominated though. Otsuka / Yamamoto is still their MOTY as far as I'm concerned.

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Got a couple of Nominations from the All Japan Pro Wrestling Love Vol. 8 show two weeks ago.

Nomination: Satoshi Kojima, KAI & Hiroshi Yamato vs Kenta Kobashi, Tsuyoshi Kikuchi & Akihiko Ito

Kobashi comes back to his former home along with Kikuchi and young Akihiko Ito to take on the man who challenged Kobashi to a match, Satoshi Kojima and his fellow members in F4. Now, just to get it out of the way, the Kobashi/Kojima segments just kick so much @$$. Kojima and Kobashi chopped each other chests to ground hamburger meat and they pummel each other, and each and every second is fantastic.

Now we get to in my opinion the stars of the match: KAI and Ito (since they get the most time). KAI and Ito beat each other down, including attacking the other team is great. Ito and KAI show off what they got and despite a few gaffes, they really made me enjoy the match even more,

Of course, the weak links are Yamato and Kikuchi, but a few things they do (Yamato attacking Kikuchi with his signature leg lariat and Kikuchi being used as a battering ram by Kobashi with repeated headbutts) are pretty good. I will say one thing, old surly Kikuchi has the greatest facial expressions in wrestling.

Before the match starts, I know the match is gonna end one way (without looking at the results) and the ending is brutal. The ovatiion Kobashi gets is crazy, but you expect it.

Here's the link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9I5CCR7U

Nomination: Keiji Muto & Masakatsu Funaki vs Masahiro Chono & Minoru Suzuki

Wow, this match was pure awesomeness and my match of the night. Hell, it's probably my favorite AJPW match next to Gurentai/Kondo & Suwama and Araya/Kojima. The video before the match explaining how Mutoh, Chono and Funaki were in the same NJPW training class and showing the history between these three men, as well as showing Funaki's career in UWF, Pancrese and MMA and his beef with Minoru Suzuki was absolutely tremendous. And this is before the match, which would continue the awesomeness.

Once we get to it we have the usual Chono and Mutoh starting off before Funaki comes in and outwrestles Chono. However, when Suzuki tags in the hate meter between MiSu and Funaki immediately explodes and they beat the ever loving piss out of each other. Their fighting continues throughout the match and it never lets up. Add Mutoh and Chono getting in the middle of the two and it is glorious. The ending is pretty cool and the match only has one thing against it and that is Funaki botching a tope by jumping too early through the ropes. Lucky Chono was there or else it could have been bad.

Like I said, probably my favorite AJPW of the year and the hate between Funaki and Suzuki will probably blow up the arena in Yokohama. But until then, AJPW match of the year right here.

Here's the link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V6TDGKWH

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More Battlarts goodness!

Like before, these are all nominations:

Super Tiger II vs. Keita Yano – BATTLARTS B-Rules Tournament Semi-Final 01.10.2009

Generally speaking, I seek out Battlarts to engross myself in its wicked strikes, tense submission holds and great displays of 'struggle' on the mat. The appeal of this performance, however, is its neatly portrayed story. The point shifts away from 'struggle' and resultant submission holds, and focuses more on Yano out-smarting Super Tiger II by manipulating the stipulation's structure to his advantage.

B-Rules is basically a submission match, only there's a limit on the amount of rope-breaks allowed in the match (five). That, and no strikes are allowed. Super Tiger (seemingly) takes Yano to school comprehensively, forcing the him to uses ALL the rope-breaks available. Yano makes the decisions swiftly, without hesitation, creating a sense of danger associated with the holds. But what Tiger doesn't realise is that Yano is mostly playing possum (his lack of indecision in chewing up all the rope-breaks being part of his strategy), setting him up with a false confidence. Snatching Tiger unawares, Yano latches on a killer choke hold whilst dangling through the ropes to the outside. Since there's no rope-breaks, it's a legal hold and Super Tiger has no option but to submit.

A simple, neat match. Nothing revelationary. Otsuka / Ishikawa, Oikawa / Ishikawa and Yano / Otsuka from the same show are superior. I just thought it was cool to see Battlarts place its stronger points aside and go ahead with a short, tighly bound 'drama' instead.

Yuki Ishikawa vs. Chihiro Oikawa – BATTLARTS 01.10.2009

Feisty chick vs. one of (and to some THE) 'top dog' of BatBat... Awesome. Ishikawa is decidedly condescending at points, and he does suffer for it soon after. Oikawa is obviously out to prove herself, and connects with a LOT of sweet kicks, punches and slaps to whipe that smirk off Yuki's face. Chihiro's shrieks, both of pain and when delivering punishment, adds a nice layer of viciousness to what goes on. Despite Ishikawa not appearing too rattled by the challenge Chihiro presents, I'd say she is far from being squashed. In fact I'd argue it's more of a display of Yuki's toughness than Chihiro's (non-existent) weakness. Aftar all, she looks totally impressive flattening Ishikawa's face with several kicks throughout!

It's too bad Ishikawa and Otsuka (Battlarts' two best performers, in my view) put on a 'struggle' clinic on the same show, subsequently pushing this out of my Top Three BatBat matches for 2009. Over time though, I have a feeling I might look upon this more favourably. Lets just hope a bunch of feminists don't come along and destroy it beforehand...

Keita Yano vs. Alexander Otsuka - BATTLARTS B-Rules Tournament Final 01.10.2009

Keita Yano ain't gonna fool Otsuka like he did Super Tiger (who apparently is now in Yano's corner ... ), so he opts to take it to his opponent, exploding out of his corner and racing straight for those submissions. Whilst it is arguable whether Otsuka or Ishikawa is the better performer in BatBat, I'd go on a limb and claim that Alexander is superior on the mat. So he naturally excells under the B-Rules stipulation (all submissions, no strikes), and here he and Yano go about depicting some excellent 'struggles' to latch on holds. There's a nice buzz about the crowd, which adds to the excitement surrounding the crowning of a winner. They especially make a contribution during the point where Otsuka seems to have Yano wrapped up in an ankle lock / head scissors combination when all rope-breaks have been expended. Yano's competitive spirit in a) racing out of the blocks and b) escaping this hold makes the eventual conclusion buyable and appropriate.

Not as good as Oikawa / Ishikawa or Otsuka / Ishikawa, but it's not far beneath. Again, these nominations could have more to do with my general enthusiasm for Battlarts, so I'll leave my fellow BatBat fans to determine whether or not I'm insane.

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AJPW's 08.30 show was quite good. I haven't watched the final match, but what I have seen has been entertaining.

I'll chuck out a second to the following:

Satoshi Kojima / KAI / Hiroshi Yamato vs. Kenta Kobashi / Tsuyoshi Kikuchi / Akihiko Ito - AJPW 08.30.2009

And I'd like to nominate:

Yoshihiro Takayama vs. Suwama, Triple Crown - AJPW 08.30.2009

And another Battlarts nomination:

Super Tiger II vs. Munenori Sawa - BATTLARTS B-1 Climax Tournament 07.05.2009

Sorry about the laziness regarding reviews. Dinner can't wait any longer.

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Nominating:

John Cena vs. Randy Orton, I Quit Match, WWE Championship, Breaking Point 9/13

Jesus, I don't really know what else you'd want in an "I Quit" match. One of the things I was kind of psyched to hear a while back was that the WWE were cutting back on blade jobs. Why? Because flat out, too many wrestlers became dependant on blood. Who needs drama when you can just cut yourself? That's part of the beauty here. No blood. It didn't need it. In fact, this might be the most violent non-bloody match I've ever seen. Probably more so than Funk-Flair at Clash IX.

They take the cuffs and essentially use those as the motiff for the rest of the story. Orton can't beat Cena straight up (never has been able to) so he needs to cheat. In the past, he's been able to control and at times, dominate Cena, but has a hard time BEATING Cena largely because he can't contain the comebacks. If he's handcuffed, there's no way he makes comebacks. The problem is, Cena won't quit, either. He hits him with a chair, DDT's him into a chair, DDT's him into the mat, throws him into the steps, stomps on his head like a grape and at one point, hands Cena from the outside ring post so he can hammer away repeatedly with cane shots. With each new approach comes the question of whether Cena will give up, and with each 'no' Orton gets angrier and seemingly more dangerous. The violence escalates.

Cena on the other hand, takes the beating of a life time. In the past, babyfaces would blade and get over on 'toughness'. BEcause Cena can't blade, it makes it tougher, so he takes an alternative route and just takes the beating of a lifetime. His selling is SO dramatic and SO well done here its almost unfair. The shrieks on the cane shots, the trembling hands as he attempts to unlock the handcuffs. The struggles for the key...

The payoff is pretty much Orton realizing he's handcuffed to Cena and that he can't keep that precious distance. He's able to keep Cena at bay somewhat, but his frantic search for the keys to the cuffs re-inforces the inevitability of his situation. If he's stuck next to Cena for too long, he's cooked. Of course, he can't drag Cena over and ends up getting twisted up like a pretzel. Just a completely f-ing magnificant match that is something I feel, really sticks out in its uniqueness and overall presentation.

This is a top five match for this year for sure, a top five for Cena's career and perhaps Orton's best match ever, with the other two being, coincidentally, with Cena as well. This is simply the most dynamic pairing in pro wrestling today. Four of their five ppv matches have been excellent and unique in their own way. Both have made each other very relevant again in a very short period of time.

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I 2nd The Cena & Orton I quit match

Honestly, I think Orton was built for I QUIT matches...he has the style to make it really a mind game. Honestly i wish Cena would of lost but it makes a lot more sence for Cena to win here...makes for a real drama because cena has seen what he is capable of...Hell in the Cell Awaits

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A hell yes to Cena/Orton. I was ready to crap on that match but it was awesome. The look on Orton's face when Cena handcuffed them together was priceless and changed the match from very good to great.

Also, I would like to nominate Christian/Regal from last night.

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A monumental YES to Orton/Cena from last night. This was the best I’ve seen either of them, and that’s saying something.

Orton’s first real move of the match isn’t actually an offensive move at all. He just ducks out of the way of Cena’s cross body and takes control from there. First he slams him into the announce table from the apron and then wears Cena down in the most brutal manner possible. Nothing fancy and nothing over the top. Which makes it all the more brilliant.

Orton has this serial killer aura about his character where he doesn’t need to be the dominant heel, because a lot of serial killers, historically, have been piss ants who probably wouldn’t last two seconds in a real fight. But they’re sneaky and clever, which is a far more potent combination. Orton has always been the guy who, when in trouble, has his lackeys make the save. Or he surprises his opponents. Or he’ll do whatever he can to cheat his way out of a situation.

Here, he outwits Cena’s early aggression and goes from there. He quickly lands a couple of big blows to the head. No messing around, it’s straight for the TV monitor and then the ringsteps. Then he has his opponent exactly where he wants him, literally, as he brings out the handcuffs. Cena can be as tough as he wants, but he and Orton both know he can’t make any heroic comebacks (which have thwarted Orton in the past) when he’s locked up without a key.

However, Orton’s brutality works against him in a weird way. He’s beating Cena senseless to the point where Cena is pretty much out of it. So Cena just refuses to quit for the hell of it. He probably really wants to but he can’t feel much by this point after having his head caved in for five minutes. So Orton decides to wake Cena up. He takes him outside and basically makes him his own Prisoner of War. Seeing Cena is on the verge of passing out, he spits water in his face, like he’s just captured him in the Vietcong and wants to enjoy dishing out this punishment as much as possible. But if his victim can’t feel the punishment, what’s the point?

Cena’s act of defiance is superb as well. The retaliation spitting of the water is the perfect response. It’s almost all he can do, but it’s enough to get under Orton’s skin. So Orton takes the torture to another level and just murders Cena with dozens of Singapore cane shots. It’s almost as if he’s saying “how dare you not quit!” Like he is being disrespected by his captive.

Cena’s comeback is as simple as it is brutal. You can have all the cane shots and chair shots you want, but nothing tops a straight kick to the balls for pure agony. Cena, as a man, knows this and uses almost all his strength to execute it. The rest of his strength is used to free himself from the ringpost.

Cena’s comebacks from there are again simple but effective, as it’s all he can possibly muster. His selling of the cane and chair shots is out of this World. Just beyond perfect. When he backdrops Orton on the floor and frees himself from the handcuffs I was half expecting him to burst into tears like a ‘nam veteran. He’s been through almost unspeakable horrors and now there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

But in true hero fashion, he doesn’t want to just put a beating on his captor, he wants to pretty much end his life. The facial expressions of both men when the handcuffs bind them together is phenomenal. Cena looks like he’s about to explode and Orton looks like he’s going to shit.

Cena’s comeback isn’t no selling or blowing through Orton’s offence either. It’s a simple rush of adrenaline and hatred. The energy really isn’t there and we see that as soon as both men get back into the ring. Within 10 seconds Cena can barely stand as he drops his knee repeatedly into Orton’s spine. Then out of nowhere Orton uses one of his two great equalisers, the RKO. He realises he’s screwed in those handcuffs and sees the key, but it may as well be a million miles away. After all Cena’s been through in the match, after all it took for him to get off that ringpost, he’s not going to let Orton out of his grasp now. He’s suffered too much for it.

The ending may come and go quickly as soon as Cena locks in the STF, but he twists Orton into about 50 different knots and Orton knows he’s going nowhere. There’s nothing he can do to break the hold so why prolong the pain? He’s been caught and that’s it. So he quits whilst he can still avoid serious injury and he cuts his losses. He loses the Title but he’ll live to fight another day at least.

Just a colossal match. Easily my MOTY. It’ll take something very, very special to top it.

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Big yes for Cena-Orton from Breaking Point. While there are better matches this year, none had the depth in character work. It was very non-WWE. I was surprised how they got so much out of doing so little, which is a testament to both men as workers. I don't think it is Ortons best match ever (that goes to Mysterio-Orton 4-7-06 SD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-EW-Iqn_Uo), but I'd certainly call it Orton's best individual performance ever.

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Yep to Orton-Cena Breaking Point. What an encounter. And even Cena haters would love the STFU at the end. With the cuffs, man that move looked painful. No wonder Orton quit.

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Hell freakin' YES to Orton/Cena's I Quit match. Reasons have already been given and i couldn't say it better.

Also from Breaking Point , I'd like to 2nd the Christian/Regal ECW Title match & to nominate the DX vs Legacy Submission Count Anywhere.

Both were really good matches , Regal's suplexes looked so devastating & he was a really credible challenger.
And in 2 consecutive PPVs , Legacy looked so awesome. At first , a lot thought DX would squash the youngsters but damn both at Summerslam & Breaking Point , they took DX to their limits.
Really looking forward to the feud ending next month insids HIAC (I hope they get another match)

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I don't even care if this is in the wrong thread or not.

Could some one like Towney or Baia tell me if Cena-Orton from Breaking Point was better (Or worse or as good - what ever) than there match’s from Summerslam 07 and 09?

If this was better, than we have a better match than Undertaker-Michaels from WM, and a match on a equal playing field with Rey-Jericho from the Bash.

I know i wasnt asked or anything but how good a match is is up to you, its your opinion, i know a lot of people say how good hogan vs andre at wm3 but i thought it was a horrible match, thats just peoples opinion

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I honestly think that Taker and Michaels is the MOTY but thats just my opinion, a MOTY is pure mass opinion

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Yeah the only way imo that taker vs michaels should get beaten is if bret hart vs 1-2-3 kid magically happened again this year

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