I can see both sides of the name argument. On one hand a name change would be nice. Especially since their affiliation with NWA ended...a new name might be a good marketing strategy. On the other hand...you can call it TOTALLY AWESOME WRESTLING LEAGUE, but the truth is if the product sucks, it doesn't matter what it's name is.

At the top of the pecking order should be better storylines/Character development.

Get people interested. Send out street teams to spread the word. They should market themselves as the evolution of pro wrestling. Not the company that is going to bury WWE or the ALTERNATIVE. The EVOLUTION. I'm sick of hearing "CROSS THE LINE." The only "line" TNA has crossed is the line between moderate and completely unbearable.

Stop titling iMPACT like it's a weekly episodic sitcom. This isn't "Fraiser" set in the squared circle. You don't have to be live, but don't let people get too acquainted with the fact that you are taping your shows weeks in advance.

Limit the gimmick matches. Take out The Lockdown PPV. It cheapens the effect when you know every feud in the month of April culminates in a steel cage.

Build stars. Give people a hero, someone to care about. Give them a villain foil.

Work psychology, not just insane spots.

Is there anything I'm missing??

[quote="takethisusername"]I can see both sides of the name argument. On one hand a name change would be nice. Especially since their affiliation with NWA ended...a new name might be a good marketing strategy. On the other hand...you can call it TOTALLY AWESOME WRESTLING LEAGUE, but the truth is if the product sucks, it doesn't matter what it's name is. AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE STILL CHANGING THE NAME WHICH GOES TO SHOW ITS A JOKE AND AN INAPPROPRIATE NAME FOR A WRESTLING ORGANIZATION. TOTALLY AWESOME??? WHO'S GOING TO BE THE CHAMP??? BILL & TED???

At the top of the pecking order should be better storylines/Character development.

Get people interested. Send out street teams to spread the word. They should market themselves as the evolution of pro wrestling. Not the company that is going to bury WWE or the ALTERNATIVE. The EVOLUTION. I'm sick of hearing "CROSS THE LINE." The only "line" TNA has crossed is the line between moderate and completely unbearable. I LIKE THE TERM 'EVOLUTION'. NEVER GOT THE 'CROSS THE LINE' PHRASE

Stop titling iMPACT like it's a weekly episodic sitcom. This isn't "Fraiser" set in the squared circle. You don't have to be live, but don't let people get too acquainted with the fact that you are taping your shows weeks in advance. DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF TAPING WEEKS IN ADVANCE OTHER THAN MONETARY REASONS.

Limit the gimmick matches. Take out The Lockdown PPV. It cheapens the effect when you know every feud in the month of April culminates in a steel cage.

Build stars. Give people a hero, someone to care about. Give them a villain foil.

Work psychology, not just insane spots.

Is there anything I'm missing??[/quote]

YOU'VE HIT THEM ALL ON THE BUTTON

No he didn't. The product isn't amazing today but it is good, far from sucking. He got most right, but a few wrong. Like the titling of the tv show. Nothing wrong with that, makes it seem a little special imo. The Lockdown PPV is loved by alot of fans and is their number 3. That is like getting rid of Royal Rumble because you are tired if battle royals. Today it seems all events are about gimmicks, so quit bashing on TNA because they use gimmick matches. Plus Impact! is taped every 2 weeks, not a problem. Not like they are taping an entire month like they use to.

Having your company named Total. Non-Stop. Action. with TNA for short makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

Having a 'Global' championship be your secondary title makes no sense. Whats the difference between that title and the 'World' title???

Turning on the television every week to the same arena, every single week reeks of low-budgetness and amateurism at its finest. After 7 years that tells me that they have not grown at all as a company no matter who they sign

Not having one,......ONE,.... original TNA/NWA artist be a household mainstream name is absurd and shows how small-time business minded they really are

Having your PPV's in the same place that you film your weekly shows as well as the biggest show of the year flop must also be disheartneing

Angle, Booker, Nash must have at one time or another thought to themselves,.."what have I done to deserve this???" when seeing the minimal crowd they now get to the 20k plus crowds they were used to. Plus they're probably rooming together when on the road as opposed to having their own penthouse suites when they were with the E

And some actually think they got 'IT'

TNA can't help it that your head goes straight to the gutter when you think TNA. That is your problem, not their's. You must grow up and quit thinking about tits and @$$ when you hear TNA, join us in the adult world where we think about things that matter. I think TNA should instead have a International Championship, but the same question could be asked of the WWE. What is the difference between a Intercontinental Championship and a World Championship? After 7 years they went from a company that was thought to be dead within a week, to a global touring promotion. Compared to the same timeframe of anyother promotion. I've shown before, being in the same place keeps cost down. We have tv shows that air on NBC, etc that gain higher ratings than any wrestling show today, and are at the same place week in and week out. Get rid of the WWE mindset, that a company must be at a different arena eachweek. TNA aren't at the level yet to make a guy a household name idiot. You must be in the mainstream to make a household name. The last household name established was John Cena. Haven't been any since. TNA must grow to that level first. Keeping costs down, etc. As for BFG not pulling well. TNA haven't pulled well on the West Coast before, weren't expected too now. BFG never have been the event that pulls the highest, that has always been Lockdown. Booker was told to hit the bricks. Angle and Nash want to stay in TNA. Who says they are there to be infront alot of fans. Nash has always said he has enough money and just wants to be somewhere he can be happy now. All Angle wants to do is wrestle, and he doesn't care how big the crowd is. Penthouse suits? Bullshit! WWE aren't doing that shit. A wrestler wants a penthouse, they have to pay for it themselves. That may have happened in WCW, but WWE that is very doubtful.

Tucan,

First things first if you don't mind not calling me out of my name i'd really appreciate that. Idiot, arsehole, idckhead, those are words I don't mind my wife or parents calling me but not a total stranger.

As far as the name goes, my mind is out of the gutter and onto business, which I believe is the reason myself as well as thers on here also believe the name is the worst. And how you cannot think this name does not initially have sexual connotations is beyond me or reasonable thinking. TNA. If you didn't already know it was a wrestling would you not think of tatas and booty??? Honestly. I have asked you and anyone who religiously defends TNA to think from a business aspect and if you can do that you'd see my point of things.

As far as the E only growing Cena, at least they have within the amount of time TNA has existed; TNA has yet to do that and the fact you tell me that they aren't even mainstream yet only strengthens my argument that they will not get any better unless they truly assess their product better.

In terms of touring, there is no way they can consider it a success when they get such low attendance numbers both domestic and abroad. Sad is more the term that should be used. And if you know your biggest show of the year doesn't sell good in a certain area, why would you then put your biggest show in that area??? That alone shows there is no common and business sense being put into decisions concerning the company. Perhaps thinking 'we're in LA....people will come' must have been the decision because it obviously tanked.

They've had 7 years to keep costs down, put some money behind your product, and go for it.

Just proves my point they don't get 'IT'

Special? It just makes it seem like you're running a sit com not a wrestling promotion. Titling iMPACT further drives the point home that wrestling is predetermined. It just doesn't make sense to me. Obviously, it's not big secret that wrestling is predetermined, but why further drive the point home?



My beef with TNA isn't that they use gimmick matches, its that they OVER use gimmick matches. And by no means am I bashing TNA. I'm simply stating my opinions.



I never stated there was a problem with TNA taping weeks in advance. It's clearly a cost cutting measure. But it does cause some continuity issues especially in the fickle world of wrestling where talent is sometimes here one day and gone the next.



Come one now.The name TNA was clearly meant to be a double entendre. There's no way it wasn't. It was/still is trying to be a marketing ploy..have an edgy suggestive name, create followers. May have HAD shock value for half a second, but now just seems juvenile.

Didn't they used to have dancing girls in cages in between matches?

I don't get the concern about the name. It's wrestling, it's allowed to be juvenile & make toilet jokes, isn't it?

Yes, but somehow they change that to have women wrestlers.



That was not the way Jeff Jarrett wanted it. But, everything was a way and Jeff wanted to bring Hulk Hogan about five or six years ago, but Hogan refused for some reason and stick with Vince McMahon and the WWE. Now after years later after Jeff Jarrett wanted him to join, and with the help of Dixie Carter and/or her father, Robert (Some news sources say) get Hulk Hogan after the fiasco of The Jeff Jarrett/ Kurt Angle/ Karen Angle/Trenesha Biggers/ Bubba the Love Sponge saga. You wonder why them? Because Bubba the Love Sponge started this and he took down Jeff Jarrett, because of the allegations of Jarrett and Karen Angle and Kurt being angry about it. Then on top of that Kurt gets arrested because of Trenesha Biggers, and Jarrett and Karen gives Kurt support because he is the best by far. On top of that Jeff goes with Christy Hemme and Jeremy Borash to Australia to promote TNA, Karen Angle does not live with Jeff, and Kurt is a happy man on and off camera, because on camera, since Bound for Glory Five, as the storyline goes that he understood the talent of the future, he has respect for them, and off camera, all charges against him was dropped, because Trenesha did not have the proof and the judges believe that this is a waste of time. Onto another thing about TNA is that there were some crazy storylines and feuds that was good, like Chris Harris went after Jeff Jarrett for the NWA title while his tag team partner, James Storm, had to recover from an arm injury. Another was, I believe the craziest of 2009 in TNA was the brawl that went all over the iMPACT Zone, the lockerroom, and yes, outside in the parking lot of the iMPACT Zone. That was wild and it was so good. But, I know someone will top what I said.

_________________
Thanks goes to metallicamaniac for this!


I hate spambots. Corrupting Everything.

Lindsie, you completely caught me off-guard with that long paragraph explaining how you saw things.

I will say this, Jeff sure did support Karen; it wasn't the type of support most men like to see their vwives or x's get, but it was support

Eric and Hulk must have the greatest pimp game if they were able to do what is allegated; sad because the company, if handled correctly could really do something if they found their 'lane'

I'll give them three years before they're in YMCA's

Daniels is in the main event of a PPV???

Need I say anymore???

Dude daniels is awesome, and im pretty sure you said before that tna just uses old wwe and wcw people, well this is proof that they dont

_________________

Daniels is in the main event of Turning Point, because TNA is recreating the historical triple threat match of Daniels, AJ Styles, and Samoa Joe. These three faced each other about four years ago. That time, it was for the X-Division title on a former pay-per-view, called Unbreakable. The X-Division title triple threat was the main event. So after four years about that match, they want to do it again, but this time at Turning Point and for the TNA World Heavyweight title.

Plus there is a few reasons on about who wins, tonight:

If Samoa Joe wins, he is a two time TNA World Heavyweight Champion.
If Daniels win, he becomes a Triple Crown Champion.
If AJ Styles win, he retains it.

_________________
Thanks goes to metallicamaniac for this!


I hate spambots. Corrupting Everything.

I think it was Towney who mentioned having their on the road PPV's in a centralized area to further establish their fanbase in and around florida

For example, for the first 4-6 PPV's of 2010, have them in

Orlando-Orlando Magic arena
U of Miami campus arena
Ft. Lauderdale
U of Central Florida arena

Establish more the fanbase and build from there. If they really want to make money, invest it where they will see a return

I may risk regurgitating much of what has already been said here, oh well.

I think people on both sides of the fence are confused. There's the "TNA has already gotten 'it'" side, and the "TNA does not and will never get 'it'" side opposes the former.

I think TNA can get it. There is all the potential in the world for them, but it hasn't been tapped into yet. I think a lot of the reason is because work on the product needs to be done in a smarter and more focused fashion. They're trying to do too much, too quickly IMO.

House Shows/Tours/Tapings
As has been mentioned, house shows should probably be limited to Florida for the time being, if for no other reason for cost-cutting measures. After maybe 3 months of that, they can perhaps pre-tape an iMPACT show in one of their venues to change the scenery a bit for the TV audience. They get the "big show" feel that can't be achieved by constant tapings in the "free arena", while not going all the way out to, say California and eating all those costs to do so.

After a few more months, if all goes well and the money's coming in, they can schedule tours of a certain region, for example they could tour the Northeastern US, or the West Coast, and keep the tour going for a week or so, and if they've got the money to spare, they can lug along their production crew to pre-tape an iMPACT during the tour.

Fact is, right now only the WWE has the money to blow to go all over the place in the span of a week. Any smaller promotion should do otherwise so as to minimize costs.

And for crying out loud, keep your PPVs out of the iMPACT Zone, they're supposed to be your big shows. Hype them up and make people want to pay to see them, aka pay more in a live arena with a dynamic atmosphere to get the "full experience" they couldn't get by watching the PPV at home.

Street teams, the internet, flyers, etc...there are plenty of avenues with which to hype your product wherever you are. Take full advantage!

The "TNA" Name
I believe it should be changed, though I kind of have a different take on it. There's an opportunity to market the Knockouts division as "legitimate female competition/performance" (Lacey von Erich notwithstanding) as opposed to a sexfest. If you want to target the female demographic using this strategy, and then they hear your promotion is "TNA" (or even "TNA Wrestling"), they'll raise an eyebrow at best.

The name works if all you're ever going to target is the 18-24 male demographic. However, for a business to expand it should be far more versatile, and it begins with the name of your business. Do I have specific suggestions for a good alternative name? I don't, I suck with names in general you see, but it should be something that can evoke excitement for your product toward any targeted demographic while at the same time identifying what your business is. I'm of the opinion that "TNA - Total Nonstop Action" doesn't quite fit the bill.

Storylines/Character Development
This could use some refining. Based on what little I've seen and what I've read, it seems that characters are being developed fairly well. Desmond Wolfe, within a week of showing up is already proven to be an intriguing character. I like Styles as the squeaky-clean champ/victim-type face. I like Joe as the divisive manipulator, effectively negotiating situations to his advantage. I like Daniels as the frustrated and somewhat confused underdog, nearly ready to turn on his best friend so he can have his chance to shine. I like Angle as the once-cocky veteran, having recently been humbled by the pure ability of the younger talent and the dues they've paid.

The characters are there, the storylines just need to be coherent from beginning to end. I'm not a regular TNA watcher so I'll not comment much on how it is now. From what I've read though, this is where the improvement can be made. You do this, you get an extremely compelling product. Ring psychology should tie into the storylines as well...it's kind of jarring to have an intricate, epic storyline just for the match to be spot-fest #12098.

That's all I've got...apologies if this is a longer-winded rehash of what everyone else has said, my point is, if TNA changes things here and there and they give themselves some time, they can "get it" and become more big-time. Not quite all hope is lost...I'm interested to see how Hogan books matches (if indeed that's what he's doing).

[quote="miche1987"]I may risk regurgitating much of what has already been said here, oh well.

I think people on both sides of the fence are confused. There's the "TNA has already gotten 'it'" side, and the "TNA does not and will never get 'it'" side opposes the former.

I think TNA [b]can[/b] get it. There is all the potential in the world for them, but it hasn't been tapped into yet. I think a lot of the reason is because work on the product needs to be done in a smarter and more focused fashion. They're trying to do too much, too quickly IMO.

[b]House Shows/Tours/Tapings[/b]
As has been mentioned, house shows should probably be limited to Florida for the time being, if for no other reason for cost-cutting measures. After maybe 3 months of that, they can perhaps pre-tape an iMPACT show in one of their venues to change the scenery a bit for the TV audience. They get the "big show" feel that can't be achieved by constant tapings in the "free arena", while not going all the way out to, say California and eating all those costs to do so. THANK YOU!!!!

After a few more months, if all goes well and the money's coming in, they can schedule tours of a certain region, for example they could tour the Northeastern US, or the West Coast, and keep the tour going for a week or so, and if they've got the money to spare, they can lug along their production crew to pre-tape an iMPACT during the tour. THANK YOU!!!!! Volume II

Fact is, right now only the WWE has the money to blow to go all over the place in the span of a week. Any smaller promotion should do otherwise so as to minimize costs.

And for crying out loud, keep your PPVs out of the iMPACT Zone, they're supposed to be your big shows. Hype them up and make people want to pay to see them, aka pay more in a live arena with a dynamic atmosphere to get the "full experience" they couldn't get by watching the PPV at home. THANK YOU!!!!! Volume III

Street teams, the internet, flyers, etc...there are plenty of avenues with which to hype your product wherever you are. Take full advantage!

[b]The "TNA" Name[/b]
I believe it should be changed, though I kind of have a different take on it. There's an opportunity to market the Knockouts division as "legitimate female competition/performance" (Lacey von Erich notwithstanding) as opposed to a sexfest. If you want to target the female demographic using this strategy, and then they hear your promotion is "TNA" (or even "TNA Wrestling"), they'll raise an eyebrow at best. THAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOU!!!!!!

The name works if all you're ever going to target is the 18-24 male demographic. However, for a business to expand it should be far more versatile, and it begins with the name of your business. Do I have specific suggestions for a good alternative name? I don't, I suck with names in general you see, but it should be something that can evoke excitement for your product toward [i]any[/i] targeted demographic while at the same time identifying what your business [i]is[/i]. I'm of the opinion that "TNA - Total Nonstop Action" doesn't quite fit the bill.

[b]Storylines/Character Development[/b]
This could use some refining. Based on what little I've seen and what I've read, it seems that characters are being developed fairly well. Desmond Wolfe, within a week of showing up is already proven to be an intriguing character. I like Styles as the squeaky-clean champ/victim-type face. I like Joe as the divisive manipulator, effectively negotiating situations to his advantage. I like Daniels as the frustrated and somewhat confused underdog, nearly ready to turn on his best friend so he can have his chance to shine. I like Angle as the once-cocky veteran, having recently been humbled by the pure ability of the younger talent and the dues they've paid.

The characters are there, the storylines just need to be coherent from beginning to end. I'm not a regular TNA watcher so I'll not comment much on how it is now. From what I've read though, this is where the improvement can be made. You do this, you get an extremely compelling product. Ring psychology should tie into the storylines as well...it's kind of jarring to have an intricate, epic storyline just for the match to be spot-fest #12098.

That's all I've got...apologies if this is a longer-winded rehash of what everyone else has said, my point is, if TNA changes things here and there and they give themselves some time, they can "get it" and become more big-time. Not quite all hope is lost...I'm interested to see how Hogan books matches (if indeed that's what he's doing).[/quote]

Miche, if you're a woman, I think I love you. I'm so looking forward to Rav's rebuttal

You both make a good point, but there is a problem, Hulk Hogan. He is not doing anything yet, until I hear that he shows up. I don't know why I am saying this much, but, he is starting to annoy me and if I am not mistaken, Hunter(Towney007) and some of the other wrestleview staff is getting annoyed about this, I believe. Unless Hunter tells me otherwise.

_________________
Thanks goes to metallicamaniac for this!


I hate spambots. Corrupting Everything.

Hulks just busy on his hulkamania tour, when hes ready to come on tv theyl hype the fvck out of it for like two weeks

_________________

And there ratings may not even make a dent

You want to gauge how successful his coming to TNA will be??? Have the taping at the Amway Arena where the Magic play.

Make the fans PAY to see the action instead of coming for free because there is a long line on their favorite ride. Then we'll see how great the signing was

At least TNA doesnt have A STALE product .. WWE is shit lately (meaning A LOT of LATELY)
Burrying of MVP, pushing rookies with NOT PAYING their dues 'n' shit sooo ....

stop shitting on TNA, cause imo, they have better wrestling atm.. they still got mistakes ofcourse, but WWE has them also....

_________________
Montel Vontavious Porter - M.V.P.

Hey, I am finally enjoying MVP after years of trying to like his character. He seems to be getting a decent amount of TV time and is in no means being buried, at least the way I understand buried to mean. How the fvck is he being buried mate?

_________________
SHHH! Quiet! You might piss somebody off!

I think Leo means that because MVP doesn't have every single title in the world he's being buried.

_________________




Thanks to CBW for the sig, awesome dude!

[quote="Leonardo"]At least TNA doesnt have A STALE product .. WWE is shit lately (meaning A LOT of LATELY)
Burrying of MVP, pushing rookies with NOT PAYING their dues 'n' shit sooo ....

stop shitting on TNA, cause imo, they have better wrestling atm.. they still got mistakes ofcourse, but WWE has them also....[/quote]


TNA's product is,......who knows what it is

You don't have not even 4 steady storylines; everything is "ok let's throw it in the air and see what sticks"

dude you obviously dont watch tna then if you think that, they have many storylines goin and theyre all good

_________________

dude you obviously dont watch tna then if you think that, they have many storylines goin and theyre all good

_________________

dude you obviously dont watch tna then if you think that, they have many storylines goin and theyre all good

_________________

dude you obviously dont watch tna then if you think that, they have many storylines goin and theyre all good

_________________

Aj Styles vs Daniels going towards final Resolution
The Aj Styles mystery attacker going on for about a month or 2
Sting not showing up for his enterview to say if he will return or not
Mick Foley going paranoid to know what will Hogan do when he comes to TNA
Dangelo Dinero and his old oponent Suicide teaming up, after proving to each other they can trust in one another, go go after Team 3d, Rhyno and Jesse Neal
Steiner and Lashley feud. Steiner even tried to arass Krystal

I got more going on

_________________